any spelling = cellar, celler, cellers


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Hi Folks,

Just a few notes about the below:

1. mtDNA is MORE normally tested in males than in females. This is because a lot of samples began their lives as Y-DNA (men only) samples. Rather than round up a female to test a particular mtDNA line, it is often easier to just test the appropriate existing sample for mtDNA as well.

2. The fact that mtDNA is not passed on from males doesn't really have a bearing in genealogy except where you are trying to find a living proxy mtDNA sample to represent an ancestral line of your own. Otherwise, it is all about the ANCESTRY of the sample, and not the descendancy. A male sample works just as well as a female sample because the ANCESTRY works identically in males and females; they both get it from their mom.

3. mtDNA is not on the X chromosome. The X chromosome is nuclear DNA. The mtDNA is in the mitochondria (hence the "mt"), which are in the cell cytoplasm.

4. Twice in the below it is stated that if you are female, and have mtDNA tested, then you will only match other females. This is in spite of the fact that elsewhere it correctly notes that a brother will match his sister. A man will also match ALL the same people that would be matched by his sister if she were to test. As far as statistics, you are MORE likely to match a man, because of #1 above.

5. How far in the past any DNA test can describe depends acutely on how well you already know your tree. So consider the idea that mtDNA only tells you about the distant past. Now consider an adoptee who has narrowed the search for his mother down to two candidates, and he has tested them both, and himself. And he matches one and not the other. This mtDNA test(s) will tell this person the identity of his own mother. So while it is true that Y-DNA and mtDNA can tell you that you share ancestry in the distant past, I don't want people to be left with the impression that its own use is ethnographic, and not genealogic.


Gregg Bonner

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This is my understanding of the most common DNA tests

available.  If a female is tested, the test will be for her mitochondrial

DNA aka Mtdna--a straight line female test--from her to mother, grandmother,

greatgrandmother, etc.  Males are tested for Ydna--a straight male line

DNA--from him to father, grandfather, etc.  (Because a male also carries his

mother's mitochondrial D, technically a male could be tested for his direct

female line, although none of his children could, as they inherit his wife's

Mtdna.  For our purposes, this is irrelevant.)

     For a Sellers line to be tested, a direct male Sellers descendant is

needed.  Presumably, under the assumption that paternity is known, any male

whose surname is Sellers can be tested.The age of any living person is

probably irrelevant.  Most mutations occur about once in 10,000 yrs., at

least for Mtdna.  In any case, they are rare events.

     I would love to see if/how Johann Michael aka John Michael aka Michael

Sellers of Bracken Co. KY is related to me, but only his direct male

descendants will show if he is related to other Sellers in our discussions.

My Mtdna results (which I have) show nothing to link me to any of my male


     Note that there are more sophisticated tests which use a number of

markers to determine if any given child is the child of a particular set of

parents--sometimes a paternity test and sometimes a combination of genetic

markers from nuclear DNA to determine if a dead person is a couple's

child--as in the Laci Peterson case. (Blood types can also be used to some

degree, usually to exclude a father when the mother is known.)

     Don't know if this makes sense.  Hope so.


Sellers.Michael []

Just wanted to pass along an article from MSNBC on January 16, 2002 about DNA being used in genealogical pursuits to indicate if two people are related via a distant, common ancestor.

The full article is at

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dna discussion forum

DEC 2004

the more I'm involved with DNA testing,  the more

interesting it becomes.   I have to admit it does NOT answer all your

questions.   Although It can and does help answer some questions,  like

everything else in Genealogy,  it creats as many (More) than it answers.   

And Nowhere in the process are you advised to abandon the paper trail.  

In most instances you'll need both the paper trail and the DNA to find

that illusive connection.. 


     The typical question that many of us ask...   Just how can DNA

testing help me??   Take into consideration  a Surname study..  Two

variations in spelling of the same or similar Surname..  A DNA test can

possibly tell if they share a common ancestor...  (or not! :-) )   One

particular Surname  Study that I'm aware of Shows a definite division, in

that, some have a Scottish ancestry,  where as others of the same surname

are definitely of English origins..   A DNA test could help you to

discover relatives you didn't know you have...   A DNA test could possibly

help you to connect to someone who has been a bit more successful in

tracing their line than you have...  

     There are a lot of ,what could be construed as, stumbling blocks

with DNA testing also..   it could show adoptions that were unknown -

verify extra-martial affairs that have been hidden a few

years/generations..  affairs/liaison's that happened out of wedlock (as we know it).. 

etc, etc, 

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