R S [n5eea@InsightBB.com]
I've followed your name on several lists.
I've emailed before.
I'm looking for connections on my line of Sellers.
For the last couple years, I thought I was in the line of Nathaniel from
PA going through KY, (OH/IN), and† then into Missouri. I thought I had
all the links correct going from PA into Phelps Co. Mo.
After attending a family reunion in Missouri this year. I'm being
informed that I am incorrect in my assumptions. My line of Sellers was
supposed to have come from North Carolina through Tennessee and then
The problem I have is in clarification of names. My recent history line
goes as follows:
William Cornelius Sellers (according to a cousin)
D. 4/1/1867 Phelps Co. Mo.
William Harvery Cornelius Sellers Sr.
B. 4/4/1863 Rolla, Phelps Co., Mo.
D. 11/11/1925 St. Louis, Mo.
Married Emma Eliza Sharp ( may not be accurate)
Loura Harry Sellers
Edith A. Sellers
Ivy Lois Sellers
Rosella May Sellers
Albert Isaac Sellers
Anna Lucy Sellers
Jesse P. Sellers
George Jacob W. Sellers
James Joshua Sellers
And my grandfather.....
William Harvey Cornelius Sellers Jr.
Supposedly born 4/1901 Red Bird, Gasconade Co, Mo. D. unknown. Married
Edith Dolla Mae Workman
George Edward Sellers (my dad) B. 5/21/1932 in Rolla, Mo.
My confusion is in that I am seeing names of William Sellers, William H.
Sellers, Cornelius Sellers but no William Cornelius Sellers or William
Harvey Cornelius Sellers.
I'm awaiting some more info from a relative in MO., but since I'm not
seeing any names of my specific Sellers on the message boards, I thought
I'd run the question by you.
Any information, direction, or thoughts would be appreciated.
don't see other messages from you?
IF these kids are PROVEN to your WM SELLERS 1901 MO as brothers and sisters,
you probably connect to
1900 PHELPS CO, MO.
WM H.? SELLERS 35 MO, mom and dad born INDIANA
These people have OBITS.
Your family has connections/kids.
AND prove them out yourself, by census/marriages/obits.
use USGENWEB and go to states/counties.
Ask for lookups, etc.
Read the census/marriages.
Thu 8/28/2003 10:06 PM
Georgia Fletcher [firstname.lastname@example.org]
Here are a few more notes that I left off the previous email:
1890 Nov 02 - George Jacob Sellers born to William Harvey Sellers and
Emma Eliza Sharp in Phelps Co., MO [IGI]
1892 Mar 04 - Jesse P. Sellers born to William Harvey Sellers and Emma
Eliza Sharp in Phelps Co., MO [IGI]
1895 Jan 31 - Anna Lucy Sellers born to William Harvey Sellers and Emma
Eliza Sharp in Phelps Co., MO. [IGI]
Aug 28, 2003
I also see on that page a William H. Sellers, son of Minyard Sellers and
Pollie Nancy Turbo (Turnbough?) in Crawford Co., Mo. I don't see any
siblings for this William H. or a Marriage, or children from a marraige.
As best as I can follow, The above William H. line would be from NC/TN
via a James Sellers.
The William Harvey line you previously noted whose father would be James
Nelson Sellers would be from IN/KY/PA. This line ultimately comes from
Nathaniel Sellers of Lurgan Township, Pa.
Do you agree?
Do you know or have records of any other William Harvey, William H.,
William Cornelius, or William Harvey Cornelius Sellers in Mo that I can
I speculate I'm down to one of two families.
Thanks in advance.
Aug 28, 2003
I think your may well be correct.
But I have family from Phelps Co. (Rolla) that say.. No... The line is
from James Sellers in North Carolina that came through Tennessee. But I
just can't make the connection with William H. (son of Minyard Sellers).
He seems to be the best documented possible of the NC/TN/MO Sellers
But I'm open for correction and information.
Aug 30, 2003
R S [n5eea@InsightBB.com]
I'm showing William Harvey and Emma Eliza Sharp had a son George Jacob
W. Sellers born 3/4/1890 in Phelps Co., Mo. Their son William harvey
born 4/10/1901 should be my grandfather.
I think one of Minyard Sellers' son's had 2 Wm.'s. William Carrol and
William. But I may be incorrect.
From: Marie Sellers-Hollinger [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 22:20
LORELEE, thank you for caring.
IT does NOT appear to be the family Roger has sent info on. BUT, I
believe ROGER needs to PROVE his families and kids. WITH names and ages
YOUR family is in 1900 CRAWFORD CO, MO
and his in 1900 PHELPS CO, MO,
THESE counties lay Next and made from same Earlier land.
WM 1862 AND EMMA SELLERS had son WM born may, 1890.
did they have another son WM ?
Someone had Two WM'S . one with middle initial. Same family.
GEORGIA has sent census/marriages, etc to help. PERHAPS we
can make a time line from same?
ALSO, WHERE did ALL these kids from 1900 PHELPS CO, MO go to = would be
ROGER, WORK on info sent to you and advise what you can. Otherwise,
can't prove, Unless we know brother/sister. Aunt and Uncle are who =
Thanks, marie, iowa
From: Frank & Lorelee [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 1:27 AM
Subject: [SELLERS] Re: Wm H Sellers
I am glad Roger got in touch with all of you.† In my line I also have a
Wm H Sellers married to an Emma Copeland.† I have Wm. the son of Minyard
and Polly Harvey Turnbough.†† This may not be a connection to Roger and
middle initial H may be for Harvey Polly's maiden name. It is so nice to
have this list to help us through the prolific Sellers.† Lorelee
AUG 30, 2003
Have you copied the census info GEORGIA has sent AND followed thro from 1860
WHICH of the following families are yours???
1900 PHELPHS CO, MO, PAGE 214 DILLON TWN.
WM H. ? SELLERS 35 MO,† mom and dad born IN
ELIZA 26 ARK, MOM AND DAD OH
JOSHA J. 11 MO, all kids mom and dad born† MO/AR
GEO W. 9 MO
JESSE P. 8 MO
ANNA L. 6 MO
ISAAC A.? 4 MO
REZELA M. 1 MO
1900 CRAWFORD CO, MO, OSAGE TWN, PAGE 113
WM SELLERS 38 mo, march 1862, m 17 yrs, dad and mom born mo
EMMA M. 34 MO , 9/8 KIDS PARENTS both born MO
CORDELLA 16F MO, BOTH PARENTS MO
CORA E. 14 MO
MINNIE 12 MO
WM 10, MAY 1890
WALTER 8 MO
VIRGINIA 6 MO
ZEDIA? 4F MO
UNNAMED SON 9/12 MO
POLLY 65 MO, DEC 1834, WIDOW, MOTHER, BOTH PARENTS BORN MO
(believe this would be Minard SELLERS wife)
1920 PHELPS CO, MO, DILLON TWN
WM H. SELLERS 18 MO, NEPHEW, DAD MO, MOM BORN ARKANSAS
AUGUST FRASER 60 GERM
ADELINE 58, OH, WIFE, PARENTS BOTH BORN OH
BLANCH REYNOLDS 14 MO, NIECE, DAD MO, MOM AR
THIS WM H. SELLERS born ca 1902 MO, with DAD BORN MO, AND mom born ARK
could be same as yours?
missing 1910 census on this family
I may have missed some of Georgia's 1910 census and will reread.
ADVISE any family kids you know, etc.
aug 30, 2003
†† Frank &† Lorelee [email@example.com]
I did not get anything from Georgia. But I talked to my aunt today to
reconfirm names of her aunts and uncles. The names MATCH the Phelps Co.
Based on what I receieved from Lorelee, I think we are narrowing down
the conclusion. I am asking for information from a family Bible I found
out about today.
Anyway.... Here's the issue.
2 William H. Sellers each marries a Emma. Middle and last names of
Emma's are different.
Both lived in adjacent counties. My aunt says they lived in several
counties over the years, including Crawford and Phelps.
I'm trying to find a "family" source to verify the names of William H's
(married to Emma) parents. At the time of the 1900 census, I see the
Phelps Co Sellers with an Indiana/KY/PA heritage and the Crawford Co.
Sellers with a TENN/NC heritage.
Once this is worked out... I hope to learn about where the PA and NC
Sellers came from, but that's another issue.
I'm hoping to hear from my Aunt within a day or so. I'm also hoping to
hear from one of my dad's cousins that is researching the family and
says we are of the Crawford Co. Sellers.
If I can confirm via any family records that William Harvey's parents
(married to Emma) was James Nelson Sellers that will lock it up.
Otherwise, I expect to see Minyard Sellers but none of his documented
children seem to match names of my dad's aunts and uncles.
Thanks to you and others for assistance.
Oh yeah, BTW for correction. In Phelps Co Sellers....
Rezela M is actually Rosella May Sellers. I show a birth date of
Sep 2, 2003
START with your PROVEN SELLERS and work backwards with proven documents
†= CENSUS/MARRIAGES/BIRTH PLACES and DATES of KIDS.
DO A TIME CHART ON any KNOWN info.
AND Where are your OBITS AND burials on these families??
YOU can use other charts to Follow your family = NOT prove it!!
IF your AUNT states 1880 or 1900? which?
are the brothers and sisters =
my goodness sake , probably
correct and USE it and GO to that county and the previous families.?
sept 2, 2003
We think we're drawing much closer now thanks to help from you and
I believe I have documentation for William Harvey being born in Garrard
Co. KY. I also think I have documentation for him marrying Mariah
What I don't have is documentation to support James Nelson being their
son, being born 1831 in Putnam Co., IN. or marrying Eliza Ann Chambers
1862 in Maries Co., MO.
Census records do show them having children that we can tie back to
William and Rosella (my ggf and gga).
Do you have any info on missing documentation for James Nelson Sellers?
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Please contact me via email. I have info that should match.
I show parents as William Harvey Sellers and Mariah Williams.
†† Frank &† Lorelee [firstname.lastname@example.org]
SEPT 2, 2003
I think I closed the loop tonight. I am in the Phelps Co. Sellers that
spreads from PA/KY/IN/MO.
†I found a message relating to Chambers-Sellers and got a response from
Amanda Swatling. She is in the Chambers line and not really studying
She had names and some dates for Eliza Ann Chambers being married to
James nelson Sellers. The names and birth dates of their children, name
of man Eliza married after James Nelson died and children by the new
She confirmed my information on James Nelson being born in Putnam Co, In
and died in Rolla, Mo.
The names she had for children match what I had plus matched the census
names and dates.
James nelson has been my shaky link. I think it is now solid.
Names/Dates from my aunt's family bible go back to James Nelson and
Eliza but did not call him James nelson, only refered to as James and
Eliza. She had a photo of them.
If traced the PA Sellers lines and figured where my line fits in the
klan from Nathaniel David now to me. At this point, I pretty much feel
comfortable with the data and scrutiny of such.
My only missing link is to my grandfather. We have no idea when/where he
died. We think in California, possibly San Francisco area. No real
contact with him since he left the family back in the 40's. SSI
possibilities in ca. are a bust so far. His name was William Harvey
Cornelius Sellers Jr. Most likely did not use Cornelius or Jr in common
name. Any info on his burial location would settle LOTS of questions.
But I'll take one issue at a time.
My best to you and others in the Sellers list that helped me work
through this. Many thanks to all.
Sept 5, 2003
ROGER, thanks for keeping us up to date.
Sorry, I can NOT follow the line/ family from IN to MO =
YOU/WE need documents to prove families
AND marriages/census/ to follow families
ADVISE, marie, iowa
MARRIAGE LICENCE(copy of)
William Harvey Sellers and Mariah Williams, March 24, 1830, Putnam Co.,
William H. Sellers and Emma Eliza Sharp , January 1, 1888, Phelps Co.,
William H Sellerss to Emma Eliza Sharp 1/1/1888, Rolla, MO
William H. Sellers to Eula Lake Creglow October 12, 1912 (second
William Harvey Sellers to Mrs. Mariane Johnson June 12, 1870 Second
marriage of Sr.
William H. Sellers to Edith M. Workman December 29, 1922 (father of
George Edward, etc)
Albert Sellers to Selma Torrance April 21, 1920 (son to William H. and
Loura Harry Sellers to Loretta Kearns September 9, 1939 (son to William
H. and Edith)
William H. Sellers Lot 322, Sec 20, Vahalla Cemetery, St. Louis Co., MO
died Nov. 11, 1925 George Sellers, St. James Cemetery, St. James, MO.
Died September 12, 1953
Cora Risz Sellers, St. James Cemetery, St. James Mo, Died 1950 (wife 2
Rose Sellers Moore, Jefferson Barracks, St. Louis Co., MO Died January
Ivy Sellers Zurfluh, Jefferson Barracks, St. Louis Co., Mo. Died
Loretta Kearns Sellers Calvary Cemetery, St. Louis, MO. Died September
Jessie Sellers Macedonia Cemetery, Rolla, MO Died February 4, 1918
John Sellers Macedonia Cemetery, Rolla, MO Died August 17, 1911 (1 yr
Louemma Risz Sellers Macedonia Cemetery, Rolla MO Died February 14, 1893
Loura Harry Sellers Tucson, Arizona died August 15, 1988
Edith A. Sellers Hilgemann Laurel Hill Cemetery, St. Louis Co., MO. Died
Decemter 8, 1992
Ivy L. Sellers Zurfluh - 11/23/1985
Rose M. Sellers Moore - 1/6/1987
William H. Sellers - 11/11/1925
Emma Sharp Sellers - 5/10/1911
NEWS PAPER OBITUARY
Edith Hilgemann -† St. Louis Post Dispatch 12/10/1992
Ivy Zurfluh - St. Louis Post Dispatch 11/25/1985
Rose Moore - St. Louis Post Dispatch 1/8/1987
William H. Sellers - St. Louis Post Dispatch 11/14/1925
Albert Sellers March 18, 1897
1860 - Marries Co., MO - W. H. Sellers age 52 wife and 7 children
1870 - Phelps Co., MO - Wm. H. Sellers age 61 wife and 2 children
1870 - Phelps Co., MO - Eliza Sellers age 30 and 3 children
1900 - Phelps Co., MO - William H Sellers age 35 wife and 6 children
1900 - Phelps Co., MO - George Sellers age 32 wife and 1 child†††
1910 - Phelps Co., MO - George W. Sellers age 40 wife and 6 children
1910 - City of St. Louis, MO.- William H. Sellers age 46 wife and 8
††††††††††††††††† James - 21†
††††††††††††††††† George - 19
††††††††††††††††† Jessie - 17
††††††††††††††††† Anna - 15
††††††††††††††††† Isac (albert) - 13
††††††††††††††††† Charles - 11 (the only time I've seen him
mentioned might be a cousin)
††††††††††††††††† William Jr. - 9
††††††††††††††††† Edith - 4
††††† Rose, Ivy and Laura not listed.†
1920 - St. Louis Co., MO - William H. age 56 (2nd wife) and 4children
and 1 step son
1920 - Chillicothe MO - Ivy Sellers age 17
1920 - E. St. Louis, ILL - Rose Sellers Moore age 20
1920 - Crawford Co., MO - John J. Sellers age 50 wife and 1 child
1920 - Crawford Co., MO - George W. Sellers wife and 10 children
††††† ( Melba Sellers † Wisdom was still living in St. James as
of December last year)
1930 - Laromie, Wyoming Military Fort Francis - Harry Sellers age 24
I have talked to my dad and several aunts and uncles and they all
confirmed to me the names of their parents, marriage date, and names of
siblings to William Harvey Cornelius Jr. They also confirmed the name of
their grandfather and grandmother (William Harvey Cornelius Sellers Sr.
and Emma Eliza Sharp) and several of the names to Sr's siblings.†
Just so you have this properly in order.
Sons to Nathaniel David Sellers (1720-1795 Died in Lincoln Co., Ky)
His sons were:
James (b. 1764 Lurgan Township, Cumberland Co. PA d. 1827 Garrard Co.,
Nathaniel David's wife name is currently unknown to my knowledge.
Nathaniel David had a brother named Samuel.
Samuel is well documented by Jim Sellars Jsellars3@aol.com.
Nathaniel David and his son's moved to kentucky approx. 1780.
****Nathaniel had 3 documented sons as having served in the
Revolutionary War. Samuel, John, Nathan,
James Sellers and Mary Crawford (m. 12/19/1791 Garrard Co., KY) had 7
William Harvey (b. 1808 Garrard Co. KY d. 1875 Phelps Co. Mo)
James Nelson (this James Nelson married Matilda Ann McCoy)
William Harvey and Mariah Williams (m. 3/24/1830 Putnam Co., IN.) had 9
James Nelson (b. 1831 Putnam Co., In. d. 4/1/1867 Phelps Co., Mo.)
James Nelson and Eliza Ann Chambers (m. 1862 maries Co., IN.) had 3
children that I can document
William Harvey (b. 5/4/1863 Rolla, Phelps Co., Mo. d. 11/11/1925 St.
Louis, Mo. documented)
††††† This is who I know as William Harvey Cornelius Sellers Sr.
Willaim Harvey Cornelius Sr. and Emma Eliza Sharp
††††† (m. 1/1/1888 Rolla, Phelps Co., Mo.) had 11
William Harvey Jr.( b. 4/10/1901 red Bird, Gasconade Co., Mo. d.
unknown) (my grandfather )
George Jacob W.
William Harvey Cornelius Jr. and Edith Dolla May Workman (12/29/1922 St.
††††† has 8 children..................
George Edward (my dad)
Eulalia Vera May
This IS and what I have as SHOULD BE my direct line of Sellers back to
(at least reasonably documentable) 1751 in PA.
Do you need more detail?
SEPT 6, 2003
ROGER, thank you for documents! and a list I can follow/see!
I see you didn't include this census, which might make it easier to follow?
1850 CRAWFORD CO, MO CENSUS=
Wm H††† 42 KY farmer (married who?where?) (ck Putnam Co,IN) (ck 1870 Phelps)
ck 1860 Marie's Co)
M (f)†† 38 KY
J N (m) 18 IN
E A (f) 17 IN
M E (f) 15 IN
J M (m) 12 IN
C S (f) 11 IN
J S (f)† 9 MO
W R (m)† 4 MO
P S (f)† 1 MO
SO 1832 and 1839 we are in INDIANA?
1840† CENSUS with these kids ages? =
PUTNAM CO,† IN seems TO BE indicated several times. which would connect to
DO WE have any WILLIAMS that went with us to MO?
DO we have copy of marriage license of HARVEY SELLERS to WILLIAMS in 1830?
Putnam Co, IN? bondsman, etc.?
THAnk YOU for sharing documents.
sept 7, 2003
William H. Sellers B. 1808 Garrard Co. Ky, D. 1875 Phelps Co. Mo.
Married Mariah Williams (b. 1818 location unknown. D. 1869 Phelps Co.
They married 3/24/1830 Putnam Co., In.)
James Nelson (b. 1831 Putnam Co. In. d. 1/1/1867 Phelps co. Mo.)
James (b. 1832)
Elizabeth Ann (b. 1/1/1833)
John M. (b. 1838)
Joeseph S. (b. 1841 Crawford Co., Mo.)
(b. 6/30/1849 Rolla, Phelps Co. Mo. D. 8/29/1929 LaVernia, Wilson, Tx.
Buried Concrete Cemetary Guadalupe County, TX.)
This means the family moved from IN to Mo sometime between 1831 and
1841. I'll try to locate 1840 census info to confirm either Putnam Co or
Your census info would be correct for 1850 or would it if Phoebe was
born in Phelps Co in 1949.
1. SO 1832 and 1839 we are in INDIANA? I believe that to be correct.
2. 1840† CENSUS with these kids ages? = I'll try to locate and verify
3. DO we have copy of marriage license of HARVEY SELLERS to WILLIAMS in
1830? Putnam Co, IN? bondsman, etc.?
I think I have a paper copy from when I was in Putnam Co last year. I'll
try to locate that and verify.
ROGER, thank you for putting it together. Continue and keep us up to date.
IF anyone has the 1830 Putnam Co., IN, Need a reread and see if two WM H. SELLERS living next or close to NATHAN SELLERS and does anyone have Nathan SELLERS will, kids, etc?