CHILDREN (on Rev War File)=1853 =10
children, 7 living=
PHILIP SELLERS of Covington (Kenton
Co)
MICHAEL SELLERS
"
CATHERINE PERRY
"
SARAH MCDONALD of Augusta (Bracken Co)
POLLY SHANE
of Bracken Co, Ky
HENRY SELLERS of Bourbon
Co,Ky
GEORGE SELLERS of Ripley,
Brown
Co, Ohio
REV WAR file is listed under JOHN and MICHAEL and note attached saying
SAME=JOHN MICHAEL SELLERS
AFTER Michael 1760 died in 1836 , wife Catherine states she went
to live with son PHILIP in KENTON CO, KY
>From 'SELLERS LETTERS' (C) M. Sims
Michael SELLERS--Widow granted pension Mar 12, 1853, cert #W-9298
Michael SELLERS enlisted April 1776 in the 8th Virginia Regiment
and served two years. An affidavit dated Jan 13, 1853, by
widow
Catherine, age 90, declares she and her husband moved to Bracken
Co, KY after they were married, settling on Little Bracken Creek.
After her husband died June 4, 1836, she went to live with her
son, Philip, in Kenton Co, KY, where she now lives.
A copy of a marriage record showed Michael SELLERS and Catharine
DILLMAN were married Dec 20, 1789 by Rev James SCOTT in Bourbon
Co, KY
Other afficavits indicate Michael SELLERS died leaving widow,
Catherine and seven children, George SELLERS, the oldest son,
"now about 70", "born May 25, 1836 about 10-12 days before his
father died";(I believe this means
Philip SELLERS, "about 65, next oldest", Catherine
(Sellers) PERRY -- these three living in Covington, KY, Sarah
(Sellers) MCDONALD living in Augusta, KY; Polly (Sellers) SHANE
living in Bracken Co., KY; Henry SELLERS living in Bourbon Co, KY;
and George SELLERS living near Ripley, in Brown Co, OH.
A government record has notation that Michael was in the Battles
of Brandywine, Germantown and Monmouth. At the time of enlistment
he resided at Woodstock, Shenandoah Co, VA; was a native of Germany,
and came to America when young, settled in Lancaster Co, PA and
married the daughter of Henry DILLMAN.
Pap'd Chas Jones Com , Jam 13, 1785
The Auditors will please deliver certificate and My Land warrant
to Major
Kirkpatrick.
Oct 26,1834 Michael SELLERS mark
Test: John Joimes (the i is dotted,msh)
(there also is a #6059 shown here = we should identify, msh)
The above Michl Sellers acct was settled the Feb 11, 1784 by J.
Murray
amounting to L? 102.3.10
Executive Dept , Richmond Va, Feb 15, 1853
I hereby certify that the foregoing is a true copy of a paper on
file in
this department
signed/ George W. Munford, Sec of Committee
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DEPOSITION JAN 1853, Kenton Ky of Catherine SELLERS ages 90
Widow of Michael SELLERS soldier in Captain CROGHANS co of the 8th
Reg of
Virginia Line under command of Col Peter Muhlengerg
Enlisted at the breaking out of war or early spring of 1776 in said
Co for
two years
At end of term , again enlisted in same Co and Reg for the remainder
of
War or for the term of 7 yrs
Believes he enlisted at Woodstock, Shen Co, VA
If not he returned to Lancaster Co, PA
and enlisted.
Michael SELLERS was born in Germany and came to US when very young
and
settled in Lancaster Co, PA
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DEPOSITION Jan 1853, Kenton Co, KY by WM LAWLER, 94 yrs old
Knew SELLERS from fall of 1796 to death
He is formely of Bracken Co, settled there in fall of 1796
Michael SELLERS much older than his wife and he was infirmed many
yrs
before death.
Geo SELLERS is oldest child, nearly 70
Philip SELLERS next oldest, about 65, having grandchildren 15 yrs
of age
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DEPOSITION Jan, 1853, Kenton Co, Ky of SAMUEL HUGHEY 98 yrs old
Knew Michael SELLERS from First Settlement of KY
Knew Catherine before marriage, dau of Henry DILLMAN of Bourbon
Co
Heard Michael SELLERS acquaintances living in Bourbon, who had known
him
before in Virginia speak of his service in 8th Reg, but can't remember
Capts name
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DEPOSITION Jan 1853, Kenton Co, Ky Richard SHOCKLEY (no age,msh)
Knew Catharine since 1827/1828 in Bracken Co and also knew Michael
and
heard him and his acquaintances make statements on his service,
among those
who were acquainted with him in VA.
Youngest child is Catharine PERRY at least 35.
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(no date on this piece of paper , that has No Other Info on it,msh
====
The money in the case of Catherine SELLERS pensioner (previous?msh)
of KY,
was drawn by David W. MC NULTY of Cinncinnati, OH atty of the pensioner
(No signature, msh)
So will list the date as Spring 1776 as that is the way it is on
the
government form =
I previously listed enlisted as possible 1774, Because of the 2
yr Prior
Service = which kinda sound like on one of the depostions - But,
after rereading
I don't think so, although don't know Why it was listed that way?
marie, iowa
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From: HERMAN
hermfagley@juno.com
SELLERS web site has some great data. Talking of ? JOHN MICHAEL SELLERS
of south of Winchester,vA,it was mentioned he joined Capt Croghan
in 1774
and the 8th Va. I'm looking at an application of Elihu CHILCOTT
saying
he enlisted in Capt Wm Croghan's 8TH Va company on 5-27-1776.
[1774
would be LORD DUNMORE'S War Va army marching into Ohio-iF 1774 was
not a
typo]. Chicott enlisted for 1 year under CRGHAN; but was recruited
by
Capt Mathais HITE,and served 2 years. Transfered soon from the 8TH
VA TO
1ST VA,and later,the 3rd Va. sERVED AT WHITE PLAINS
[N NEW YORK CITY]
;BRANDWINE AND GERMANTOWN [TRYING TO KEEP THE BRITHISH FROM ENTERING
PHILDELPHIA FROM THE SW; AND AT MONMOUTH-WHEN THE BRITISH MARCHED
FROM
PHILA BACK TO NEW YORK.
JOHN MICHAEL SELLERS widow applied from n KY.
Perhaps SELLERS and Chicott HAD SOME SIMILAR SERVICE
The War of 1812 COL GEORGE CROGHAN ,OF LOUISVILLE,CLAIMED NO KINSHIP
TO
FT PITT GEORGE CROGHAN. Sine the places I know Indian agent GEORGE
CROGHAN were 100 miles north of the PA-MD line. FORT SHIRLEY
and FORT
PITT. [HE WENT TO W ILLINOIS 1764 ERA ON TRIP]. AND THE VA WM CROGHAN
100
MILES PLUS SOUTH OF THE PA-MD LINE,I assume no kinship .But because
both
Capt wm,AND 1812 COL GEORGE HAD TIES TO JONATHAN AND GEORGE ROGERS
CLARK,ILL GUESS THEY WERE AKIN.
From: SHERRY
HJZM01A@prodigy.com ( SHERRY MAZZETTI)
I have finally obtained a copy of the complete
Revolutionary War
service (not pension which
several of us already have) file for (John) Michael Sellers who
married Catherine Dillman. I tried
abstracting some of the cards for part of 1777, so those not familiar
with the info could get the
idea. I then listed anything of significance for 1778 and
1779. Not
a particularly enlightening file,
but we do now know that he was a Drummer and Fifer and that his
name
was indeed John
Michael Sellers. I am also interested in McDaniel files
I mention
at the end. I am ever hopeful of
finding my connection. Stuff in brackets mine.
[MILITARY SERVICE FILE OF]
+ 1292 [no idea what this means]
SELLERS, MICHAEL
3 and 4 Virginia Regiment
Revolutionary War
Private
Card Numbers [50 numbers]
Number of personal papers herein 0
Book Mark: R.& P. H1.0.200.
[Earliest cards from the 8 Va--explanation on cards later]
1) John Michael Sellers
Pvt.{Captain William Croghan's Co. Of the 8th Virginia Reg't of
Foot,
commanded by Col.
Abraham Bowman.
(Revolutionary War.)
Appears on Company Pay Roll of the organization named above from
1
Mar to 30 April, 1777
inclusive
Pay per month 6 2/3 Dolls
2) Jno M Sellers
Appears on Company Muster Roll of the organization named above for
the month of Not stated,
17[blank].
Roll dated May 18, 1777
Enlisted for the war March 10, 1777
Remarks: Present
3) Mich'l Sellers
Drum'r
Company Pay Roll
May and June, 1777
Amount 7 1/3 Dolls
Remarks: one month
4)Mich'l Sellers
Pvt
[ditto above]
Amount 6 2/3 Dolls
5) Mich'l Sellers
Aug. , 1777
Drum'r
Amount pay 7 1/3 Dolls
Remarks: Omitted in July
6)Mich'l Sellers
[ditto above but no entry for Remarks]
7)Mich'l Sellers
Sept, 1777
Amount pay 6 2/3 Dolls-Va Cur'y L2 [L 2= 2 pounds; do not have type
character to portray]
The record pretty much goes on an on like
this with a Muster
Roll and a Pay Roll card for
(probably) every month. Need to see if there are gaps.
Have noted
only added info below.
Muster Roll for May and June 1777 dated Aug. 5, 1777 says promoted
June 1st
Muster Roll for July dated Aug. 5, 1777 lists him as Drum'r &
Fifer
appointed June 1 [This "job
description" seems to alternate on cards with Pvt. which was his
rank.
]
Muster Roll for Nov dated Dec. 5, 1777 lists term of enlisted as
for
war and Remarks: sick
Muster Roll for Dec dated Jan. 7, 1777 lists him as on furlow
In 1778 some of the cards change to say
Capt William Croghan's
Company of the 4th, 8th,
and 12th Virginia Regiment of Foot, Regiment Commanded by Col. James
Wood. Others say the
4th VA with same men in charge. Still others show 8th VA Regiment
Commanded by Col.
Abraham Bowman. In late 1778, it switches again to Regiment
Commanded by Col. John
Nevil. A footnote on one card reads:
About May 1778, the 4th, 8th, and 12th
Virginia Regiments (1776-
1778) were incorporated
and designated the 4th, 8th, and 12th Virginia Regiment until about
September, 1778.--R.&P.
410,200.
Roll [no other designation] of Sept 9, 1778 Remarks: Light Infantry.
A few others say "on
Command" or "On Light Infantry." During these same months
of July
and August, 1778, he is
listed as at Camp White Plains. This is the first mention of location.
In 1779, cards refer to Captain and Captain-Lieut.
Leonard
Cooper's Company of the 4th VA
Regiment Commanded by Col. John Nevill. In 1779, there are
further
mentions of locations.
They are
Jan 1779 Remarks: Commd [indicates on Command]
Feb 1779 Middle Brook Remarks: Furlough
Mar 1779 Camp Middlebrook Remarks: On furlough
til Apr 13
Apr 1779 Camp Middle Brook Remarks: on
duty
May 1779 Camp at Smith's Clove
June 1779 Camp at Smith's Clove
July 1779 Camp at Ramapough
August 1779 Camp at Ramapough Remarks:
Smiths Clove
Sept. 1779 Camp at Rammspaugh [could be
Rammapaugh] on duty
Oct. 1779 Haverstraw
Dec. 1779 Camp near Morristown
I will have another look, but I believe
that this is the last
entry. I have to work on finding out
exactly where Michael was in 1779. I do have records of a
John
McDaniel/McDonnal/McDonald
who was in the 4th, 8th, and 12th VA (predominantly the 8th,
in
different companies but
sometimes Commanded by Col. James Wood) who was at White Plains
and
Camp Middlebrook
during at least some of the same period as Michael. There
is still
another John McDaniel in the
3rd, 5th, and 7th (predominantly the 5th) who was also at White
Plains and Camp Middlebrook.
Doubt that there is a connection to my McDaniel family, but it is
an
interesting coincidence.
SHERRY
Never made sense to me the 'enlisted Woodstock,Shenandoah Co,Va in
8th
Va"
pension statement of fact.
But JOHAN MICHAEL b Germany,narried "HIEDLEBURG TWNSP, nne Lancaster
Co
Pa near BERKS CO line [now Lebanon Co,]pa.and marrying DILLMAN there
in
1772,
then going to ENLIST in Va for a land bounty of 100-200 acres,plus
sometimes a slave,while others of the Hiedleburg German's went to
Centre
Co,Pa's Brushy Valley, [penn state u area.
Then, maybe 50 families of
those ex Heidleburg Germans unite in sw BROWN CO,OH;se Clermont,and
nw
CLERMONT,and adj NEW GERMANY at Christian Waldschmidt's mills. [father
minister at Hiedlkeburg,-reading pa. -wife a BOLENDER,as were the
Shinkle's wifes.. ] Bolender's Shinkle's lived 1st at the Augusta,Bracken
Co Ky >s BROWN CO Oh ferry, just as Leonard SELLERS ky,and Michael
Sellers [oh] lived near the next,josephus waters ferry up-river.
James Kirkpatrick,whose grandfather is Andrew hill,m 1839 atop the
hill
from Waters ol ferry Mahala SELERS. 40 years later,James dies,and
Mahala,and brother move 10-15 miles to a BOLENDER-SHINKLE-[hiedleburg
Pa
born] neighborhood. And Mahala marries her ELMER to Izora Kellum
[named
for Izadora Shinkle?]. who had both BOLENDER and Shinkle blood.
Meanwhile, the Joel Bolender line intermarries with
a desc of Alexander HILL.
From: FamTree456@aol.com
To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:52:21 EDT
Subject: APPLE, EMERY, PRICKETT, CROSSLEY, Etc, all Clermont Co.,
Ohio
Message-ID: <51010075.24fdd2c5@aol.com>
From: SHERRY
sherrymazzetti1@prodigy.net
Have been looking for some clues to John Michael SELLERS Virgina
past. Not
much so far, but I found a couple of interesting bits of trivia.
Learned
that the 8th Virigina was known as the “German Regiment,” and that
many
recruits were persuaded by a sermon give by John Peter Gabriel Muhlenberg
(1746-1807) who preached from Ecclesiates (There is a season….)
at
Woodstock, Shenandoah Co on January 28,
1776. Supposedly, he then took off
his clerics robes to reveal his military uniform which inspired
many to
sign up. Wonder if Michael heard the preaching.
Several sites detail this fact. You can click on the following
(as an
example)
/
http://www.shentel.net/chamber/html/about_woodstock.htm
SHERRY
=
In the late 1770s, John Muhlenberg was pastor at an Anglican church located in the heart of Woodstock. As a famous story of Muhlenberg has it, at conclusion of his farewell sermon on January 21, 1776, Muhlenberg threw off his clerical robes to reveal an officer's uniform beneath and shouted, "there is a time to pray and a time to fight..." With that declaration, the story says he then called for volunteers to join the 8th Virginia Regiment under his command. and the next day led out 300 men from the county to form the nucleus of the Eighth Virginia. Muhlenberg's unit was first posted to the South, to defend the coast of South Carolina and Georgia. In early 1777, the Eighth was sent north to join Washington's main army. Muhlenberg was made a Brigadier General of the Virginia Line and commanded that Brigade in Nathanael Greene's division at Valley Forge. Muhlenberg saw service in the Battles of Brandywine, Germantown, and Monmouth.
ALL - I have seen where the SELLERS name was spelled/sounded? KELLERS
=
WHERE? German translation OR?
DON'T see much on Ship Lists
DON'T see much on County/States - Except the Northern Neck of VA has
possibilities-
BUT, interested - DON'T know if we have Proven them or have families
living there now?
SHERRY - The Shen Co, VA info was given by REV JOHN MICHAEL SELLERS
1760
wife Catherine
HERMON sent us a war file? on someone who enlisted in this 8th? (same
Co) as Michael
-COULD we Follow up on this = Capt Croghans Co 8th Rev Va
AND AnyOne that was in this Co = Probably lived same Place?
Thanks, marie, iowa
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Sherry Mazzetti wrote:
Marie and All,ABOVE is mostly documents - This is what I see in Census of Bracken Co, KY where familySince John Michael Sellers was in Shenandoah Co VA at the start of the REV
War, I’ve been looking for any sign of SELLERS in that area. I found one
man in Augusta, then Dunmore County, Shenandoah’s antecedents who was
surnamed Sellers twice in a land records and again in a Dumore residents
list; however, more searching makes me believe that he is the same man
always listed as Keller/Kellar elsewhere. His family seems to have become
Keller. On the outside chance that they began as SELLERS and should be
counted as Sellers, I copied out the following:1775 DUNMORE COUNTY RESIDENTS—From Richard Campbell’s list of 1775
George Sellars 1 male over 16, 3 males under 16, 3 females
1790 BRACKEN CO, KY=
1800 BRACKEN CO, KY=
1810 BRACKEN CO, KY=
1820 BRACKEN CO, KY=
Michael SELLERS 200001-1101000-6 (page 5)=
1830 BRACKEN CO, KY=
Catherine SELLERS,page 24, no twp
1 male under 5
2 males 5/10
2 males 10/15
1 female 50/60
1840 Campbell Co,Ky census=
Philip SELLERS, Page 117 (no twn listed)
1850= KENTON CO, KY
Philip SELLERS 60 PA, page 231, Covington City
Kaziah 44 Ky
Lydia 21 Ky
Nancy 18 Ky
Israel 13 Ky
Foster 13 Ky
Andrew J. 8 Ky
Martha ? 7 Ky
Estha J. JAQUEY? 15 Ky
1860 CAMPBELL CO, KY=
PHILIP SELLEARS, PAGE 900 CARTHAGE
> There is an excellent Valley Forge site that can be searched.
I found
John Michael Sellers of Bracken County and his whole regiment there.
It is
assumed that Valley Forge was the regiment's winter encampment.
This info
from a note on William Croghan, his captain. Unfortunately, I
did not find
any really familiar names nor even a lot of Germans.
>
> There are a few other Sellers/Sellars, etc. I can list them,
if you
like. Found it interesting that a number of VA regiments were
actually
comprised of mainly PA recruits.
>
> SHERRY
Can't really give you a page number. From the Valley Forge
site, go to the Muster Roll search page.
For me, it was a two-step process to get there. Had to click
"Muster Roll"
twice. At that page, you can search by soldier's name, state,
or regiment.
I did the first and last. For Michael Sellers, the following
is listed:
MUSTER ROLL DATA SHEET
Personal ID: VA08174
Lname: Sellers
Fname: Michael
Rank: Private
Rank Type: Rank and File
State: VA
Regiment: 8 VA
Division: 3rd Division
Brigade: 4th VA Brigade
Company: Crochan [sic]
Monthly Status Data:
December 1777: Fit for duty
January 1778: Fit for duty
February 1778: Fit for duty
March 1778: Fit for duty
April 1778: Fit for duty
May 1778: Fit for duty
June 1778: Fit for duty
Note that entries of some other men is even more brief. I found
the
presumption that the group wintered at Valley Forge in the entry
for
(Captain) William Croghan. I have not gone back to my info
on Michael's
service record to see if anything in it conflicts with that assumption.
I
know that it does not mention Valley Forge.
Here is the list of men who served with John Michael Sellers in the
8th VA
8th VA (at least presumed to be there with this regiment).
All
are
privates unless otherwise indicated. I have preserved the
spellings
listed.
Think Michael also served in other regiment(s) during the war, and
he was
briefly listed as Fife & Drum, as I recall. SHERRY
1. ALKSHITE, HENRY
2. ANDERSON, DANIEL-SGT.
3. BENNET, RICHARD
4. BRANMAN, THOMAS
5. BRECKENRIDGE, ROBERT-ENSIGN
6. BROOKS, JAMES
7. BUCKLY, MICHAEL
8. BYRD, THOMAS-SGT.
9. CAMPBELL, ARCHIBALDQ
10. CASSIDY, JAMES-SGT.
11. CHAMBERS, GEORGE-CORP.
12. CHAMBERS, ROBERT
13. CLARK, WILLIAM
14. CLOSE, HUGH-CORP.
15. COATNEY, WILLIAM
16. COOPER, LEONARD-LIEUT.
17. CRAWFORD, MOSES
18. CROGHAN, WILLIAM-CAPT.
19. CUSHON, ANTHONY
20. DEAN, JOSEPH
21. DOWLAND, JOHN
22. DUNCAN, JOHN-SGT.
23. EAGLE, WILLIAM
24. EASTON, P