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Cynthia or Synthia or Cintha Sellars married a Graves in Montgomery Co., NC,
but moved, with children, to Chesterfield Co., SC after his death during
Civil War. Within her obit, it states she is the daughter of Joe Sellars.
Please help if you have information on Joe Sellars and/or mother, etc.  1850
Census shows her living with Jordan family, possible her sister Rosann or
Rosanna or Rosean?

Any / all help appreciated.

1870 Chesterfield., SC Federal Census
===========================
Syntha GRAVES 39 fw SC
John GRAVES 12 mw "
Della 15 fw "
Rose Anne 13 fw "
Smiley 11 mw "
Jackson 10 mw "
Willm 8 mw "



FROM
mdgraves@bellsouth.net
Chesterfield Co. SC US census. The census was enumerated Nov 28, 1850.
Jordan         Loyd                35     M  Miller    SC
Jordan         Rosanna           30     F               SC
Jordan         Jackson             3      M            SC
Jordan         Bud                   2     M           SC
Sellars        Cintha              20     F            SC



Thanks.
Maybe some of our SELLERS have info on a JOE/JOSEPH SELLERS in NC or SC about 1830?

OUR SC info is scarce and hard to come by, so Any info/documents  shared is appreciated.

DO you have any of the CIVIL WAR files on her husband or father?
SELLERS =
GRAVES =
OK, he died in CIVIL WAR? = HAVE his records and it shows the marriage, etc.
COPY of Marriage record in CW file?
WITNESS = any and all Names important and Places.

DO you have the 1860 CENSUS reading/index on ANY ?
YOU don't know her husbands name?
KIDS obits would show? =
WHERE were ANY kids born?
 

The 1880 census shows parents blank on CINTHA SELLERS GRAVES.
her sister? Rosan Jordan  shows parents born SC.=

There is an OLD land connection of GORDENS and SELLERS in 1790's =(believe Chesterfield Co, SC?)
WE should continue this line on down = may connect to STRICKLAND area. =
OCT 11, 1798
 William Sellers, Col Spencer Bk 37 P 182 Sketch
http://home.t-online.de/home/bryan.jordan/bk37p182.gif
WILLIAM SELLERS and STRICKLAND land map next to JAS GORDON and WM WELCH
STEPHEN STRICKLAND 1000 acres on WALLIS PRONG of BEAR CREEK and BAY BRANCH of THOMPSONS CREEK.
===
(HARDY SELLERS gave land on Thompson Creek to his son Phillip)

WHEN and WHERE did Rosann marry JORDANS?
and WHO are HIS parents?

PLEASE SEND NAMES of CINTHA SELLERS GRAVES KIDS and where ANY of them went to?
http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellers2/scchesterfield1880.htm

WE don't have much info on MONT CO, NC - might help also.
But, Cintha was in SC in 1850 and went to Mont Co., NC and got married?? and returned to SC?

THANK you for sharing and understanding.
marie, iowa



jan 1, 2003
mdgraves@bellsouth.net

Looking for info on Joe (Joseph B. ?) Sellers or Sellars, father of Cynthia (or Syntha) Sellers or Sellars and Rosanna Sellers or Sellars. Cynthia found in 1850 Chesterfield Co., SC census, living w/ Rosanna Jordan and husband Lloyd Jordan. Later, she married Benjamin Graves in Montgomery Co. - Randolph Co., NC. He died in Civil War, she moved to Chesterfield Co., SC w/ kids. Her obit lists father as Joe Sellars. Past hint I have is that mother's name is Lillie Sutton. Anyone help?



MARTIN, could you send us a list of the kids of CYNTHA SELLERS and BENJ GRAVES?
WHO is SMILEY GRAVES born ca 1859 ?
marie, iowa

Census Place: Mount Croghan, Chesterfield, South Carolina
 Source: FHL Film 1255225  National Archives Film T9-1225     Page 353A
 Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
June SELLERS Self F W W 69 SC (is this Jane Baxter Sellers?
 Occ: Keeping House Fa: SC Mo: MA
Flory SELLERS Dau F S W 23 SC
 Occ: At Home Fa: SC Mo: SC
Lucy SELLERS Dau F S W 31 SC
 Occ: At Home Fa: SC Mo: SC
Stephen SELLERS SSon M S W 52 SC
 Occ: At Home Fa: SC Mo: SC
Sue SELLERS SDau F S W 38 SC
 Occ: At Home Fa: SC Mo: SC
Smiley GRAVES Nephew M S W 21 SC
 Occ: Laborer Fa: NC Mo: SC

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 jan 9, 2003
Marie,
Glad to hear from you.  Interesting Census record.  It appears that your
Jane Baxter Sellers could be my Cynthia's sister?  The 1840 census has
Cynthia / Cintha living w/ another sister, Rosann or Rosanna or Rosean
Sellars who was married to a Lloyd Jordan (see far below).  Any links on
your information?

Martin Graves

===============
Benjamin Bennett Graves was born in 1831 in Montgomery Co., n.C.. He died in
Unknown Place, n.C.. The cause of death was Civil War Fatality or shortly
after war. He was buried in No. 2 National Cemetery, Fredericksburg, Va,
Usa.

Benjamin married Cynthia or Syntha Sellers daughter of Joe (Joseph B. ?)
Sellers and Lillie Sutton on 25 Apr 1852. Cynthia was born about 1832 in
Chesterfield Co., S.C.. She died on 26 May 1915 in Chesterfield Co., S.C..
She was buried in Providence Baptist Graveyard, Pageland, Chesterfield Co.,
S.C..

Benjamin and Cynthia had the following children:

M John Wilson Graves was born on 22 Dec 1852. He died on 19 Sep 1928.
F Zelpha (or Zilpha) della Graves was born on 6 May 1855. She died on 3 Jan
1934.
F Rose Ann Graves was born on 25 Dec 1855. She died on 18 Nov 1914.
M William Smiley Graves was born on 26 Dec 1858. He died on 5 Feb 1921.
M Edward Jackson Graves was born on 9 Jul 1860. He died on 26 Feb 1929.
M Benjamin Franklin Graves was born on 20 Jul 1862. He died on 13 Jun 1947.
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William Smiley Graves was born on 26 Dec 1858 in (probably) Montgomery Co.,
n.C.. He died on 5 Feb 1921 in Anson Co., n.C., Usa. He was buried in East
View, Wadesboro, n.C..

William married Mary Emeline Gaskins daughter of John D. Gaskins and Ellen
unknown in 1881. Mary was born in Apr 1859 in Chesterfield Co., S.C.. She
died on 15 Dec 1921 in Anson Co., n.C.. She was buried in East View Cem.,
Wadesboro, Nc.

They had the following children:

M Harley Graves was born in Feb 1882 in Chesterfield Co., Sc. He died in
1907 in Anson Co., Nc. Harley married Julia Flake.
F Hattie Graves was born on 26 Jun 1883 in Chesterfield Co., Sc. She died on
10 Nov 1904 in Anson Co., Nc. She was buried in East View Cem., Wadesboro,
Nc. [Notes]
M James Thomas Graves was born on 4 Oct 1884. He died on 21 Nov 1965. James
married Jessie Glendora Hasty on 21 Jun 1910.
F Nettie Graves was born in 1887.
F Ellen Graves was born in 1889.
F Ruth Graves was born on 3 Jun 1891. She died on 8 Jan 1927. Ruth married
Charles Harvey Burns on 9 Jul 1911.
M John Graves was born in Apr 1893.
F Minerva Graves was born on 16 Jun 1896. She died on 16 Jun 1913 in Anson
Co., Nc. [Notes]
F Mary Caroline Graves was born on 18 Jun 1898. She died on 30 Apr 1984.
Mary married Dewey Henry.
F Nannie Graves was born in 1902. She died on 28 Jun 1924. Nannie married
Thomas Hinson.
=====================

The census was enumerated Nov 28, 1850.  Head of household was "Loyd" Jordan
(1819-1899), with wife "Rosanna"(1829-1897), whom we know was a
Sellers/Sellars. He was a miller like his father; they were landowners and
apparently had considerable commerce with NC through the trading post at Old
Store.

House # 800, of Chesterfield Co. SC US census. The census was enumerated Nov
28, 1850.
LAST NAME   FIRST NAME     AGE SEX  RACE  OCCUP.          BIRTHPLACE
Jordan         Loyd                35     M               Miller
SC
Jordan         Rosanna           30     F
SC
Jordan         Jackson             3      M
SC
Jordan         Bud                   2     M
SC
Sellars          Cintha              20     F
SC

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jan 10,2003
MARTIN, thanks for sharing your family.
I also see these JORDONS, etc
And since You have researched these families, Can You tell us WHO
ANY or ALL of these families are =
Will link you to these counties and hopefully Someone will know a child and contact us/you. Please Advise any progress.
marie, iowa
 
  1850 CHESTERFIELD CO, SC
 JOSEPH SELLERS 34 SC, CARPENTER, NO LAND , PAGE 149=
living with
DUNCAN CRAWFORD 85 SCOTLAND, FARMER
MARY 75 NC
NEAL 42 SC, LAND
next?
JORDEN CAMPBELL 80 VA
RILEY 37 SC
next?
ELIZ JORDEN 65 SC, FARM, LAND
MALVINA SELLARS 15 SC,  PAGE 172
living with
STEPHEN WATSON 35 NC
HENRIETTA 35 SC
and kids 12/2 sc
next
JOHN WATSON 60 NC
also
next Joseph Jordon 60 NC
JULIE A. 50 SC
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SARAH GULLEDGE PAGE 175
HUNTLEYS, PAGE 175
=
MATHEW SELLARS 25 SC.   farmer, land PAGE 176
MARY 25
FRANCES 4F
WM A. 1
CLEMENT DOBBS 16
next
ABIGAIL SELLARS 61 SC, LAND, PAGE 176
JOSIAH 21
AARON 19
next
ELIJAH HUNTLAY 27 NC, LAND
ZILPHA 24 NC


 1085-1085
 Hardy H Sellers  age 20  Male  Farmer  (VofRealestate) 1000 SC
                  Mary E             age 20  Female >              SC
                  Adella              age 3/12 Female                                                                                                                    
                  Zilpha A. Jordan age 19 F
                  James    Jordan   age 4     Male
                  William Bogan     age 25  Male   Carpenter NC            
                   Alexander Blakeney age 22  Male  Carpenter SC            

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Marie,
I will continue to look at these names.  Thanks.

Martin Graves
================
JAN 2004

 

Title: Graves / Sellars / Jordan family bibles
Post by Martin_Graves on Dec 6th, 2003, 12:30am


My greatgreat-grandfather, Benjamin B. Graves of Randolph Co., / Montgomery Co., NC married a Cynthia Sellars (or Cynthia or Sinthy or Syntha or Cintha.) of Chesterfield Co.  They lived in Montgomery Co., NC  until BB Graves died during Civil War.  Cynthia returned to Chesterfield Co. with the children, and we can only guess it was to be near her family.  We do know she was living with Loyd Jordan and his wife Rosanna during 1850 Census, and we guess they were sisters, her name is spelled "Sellars".  She is also found with her children in 1870 and 1880 Census records.  Cynthia was born @ 1832  When she died in 1915, her death cert. lists her father as Joe Sellers.  Below I have pasted a quote from James C. Pigg, a notable expert on Chesterfield Co. families.

"Cynthia Sellers is one of those people we have not been able to figure out parentage. However, I figure she is from the Matthew Sellers family. Matthew also lived on Thompson Creek near the area where out more widely known Hardy Sellers lived. Matthew left no will or any other records, but we belive that McCarroll Sellers who moved from Thompson Creek to current day Jefferson area is from this family as well as David Crokett Sellers whose son Levander Jackson Sellers moved near the current day Patrick area from Anson County, NC. Wish I could have been more of a help here, but have not run across anything definitive. " James C. Pigg

Looking for Cynthia Sellers Graves' or Rosanna Sellars Jordan's family bible for link to parents and/or siblings.


Title: Re: Graves / Sellars / Jordan family bibles
Post by Powderkeg on Dec 11th, 2003, 8:16pm


I have some Jordans in my Johns family that came from the Thompson Creek are near Providence Baptist church on Hwy. 9. Just wondering if there could be any connection? Miss Powderkeg


Title: Re: Graves / Sellars / Jordan family bibles
Post by MDG on Dec 12th, 2003, 8:13am


PK,
Could be.  Problem with this research is that what little official docos that survived Sherman have been reviewed.  "Only" hope is that someone has a family bible or old letters buried in a trunk somewhere.


Title: Re: Graves / Sellars / Jordan family bibles
Post by TigerInGA on Dec 13th, 2003, 11:23am


Hopfully Descendants of Cynthia Sellers or Sellars  & Benjamin Bennett Graves may have some documents.  Only three generations giving here - LIVING descendants exits in 4th generation level.

List prepared on 13 Dec 2003

1. Benjamin Bennett Graves (b.1831)
  sp: Cynthia Sellers or Sellars (b.1832;m.1852;d.1915)

2. John Wilson Graves (b.1852;d.1928)
  sp: Ellen Emiline Horton (b.1855;m.1872;d.1905)
3. "Will" (James M. or William) Graves (b.1873;d.1901)
  sp: Catherine Annetta Mangum (b.1872;m.1893)
3. Lula P. Graves (b.1875;d.1878)
3. Henry Buford Graves (b.1877;d.1924)
  sp: Mary Ella Pigg (b.1887;d.1932)
3. Dr. Luther Pratt (Luke) Graves (b.1880;d.1944)
  sp: Rosa M. Vick (b.1881;d.1932)
3. Lemuel Smiley Graves (b.1881;d.1948)
  sp: Lucy Perkins Davis (b.1880;m.1904;d.1962)
3. Oliver B. (Bundy) Graves (b.1884;d.1968)
  sp: Minnie Lee Pigg (b.1885;d.1963)
3. Victor "Vick" F. Graves (b.1886;d.1933)
  sp: Ethel Hamilton (m.1912)
3. Samuel Major Graves (b.1891;d.1947)
  sp: Thelma P. Sims (b.1907;d.1940)
  sp: Pauline Keye (b.1912;d.1993)
3. Edward S. Graves (b.1891;d.1971)
  sp: Jennie M. Jackson (b.1892;d.1965)
3. John Ellis Graves Sr. (b.1892;d.1953)
  sp: Verdie Pauline Davis (b.1898;m.1919;d.1978)
3. Emma A. Graves (b.1895)
  sp: J. R. Nicholson
  sp: Unknown O'Dowd
3. Josie Alline Graves (b.1897;d.1989)
  sp: W. Henry Owens
2. John Wilson Graves (b.1852;d.1928)
  sp: Mary Nicholson (d.1929)

2. Zelpha (or Zilpha) Della Graves (b.1855;d.1934)
  sp: J. W. Stegall (b.1867;d.1916)
3. Charles F. Stegall (b.1887;d.1928)
3. Fred Stegall (b.1899;d.1949)
  sp: Veda Mae Edwards

2. Rose Ann Graves (b.1855;d.1914)
  sp: William Madison Jordan (b.1854;d.1931)
3. Glinnie Jordan (b.1877;d.1903)
3. Ed M. Jordan (b.1882;d.1913)
3. Rosa Jordan (b.1890;d.1914)
  sp: William "Bill" Jarman (m.1913)
3. Lee Andrew Jordan
3. William Albert Jordan (d.1938)
   sp: Jean Hudson (m.1900)

2. William Smiley Graves (b.1858;d.1921)
  sp: Mary Emeline Gaskins (b.1859;m.1881;d.1921)
3. Harley Graves (b.1882;d.1907)
  sp: Julia Flake
3. Hattie Graves (b.1883;d.1904)
3. James Thomas Graves (b.1884;d.1965)
  sp: Jessie Glendora Hasty (m.1910)
3. Nettie Graves (b.1887)
3. Ellen Graves (b.1889)
3. Ruth Graves (b.1891;d.1927)
  sp: Charles Harvey Burns (m.1911)
3. John Graves (b.1893)
3. Minerva Graves (b.1896;d.1913)
3. Mary Caroline Graves (b.1898;d.1984)
  sp: Dewey Henry
3. Nannie Graves (b.1902;d.1924)
  sp: Thomas Hinson

2. Edward Jackson Graves (b.1860;d.1929)
  sp: Mattie Welch
3. Lonnie Richard ("thingy") Graves (b.1885;d.1967)
3. Sarah Elizabeth ("Lizzie") Graves (b.1888;d.1956)
3. Bulah Graves (b.1890;d.1907)
3. "Mitt" Graves
3. Etta Juanita Graves (d.1976)
3. Edward Jackson Graves , Jr
3. Ronie (?) Graves
3. Infant Graves
2. Edward Jackson Graves (b.1860;d.1929)
  sp: Lillie Gregory
3. Dee Albert Graves
3. Paul Jones Graves
3. Mae Graves
3. Maude Graves

2. Benjamin Franklin Graves (b.1862;d.1947)
  sp: Mary Jane ("Mollie") Stegall (b.1865;d.1954)
3. Charlie B. Graves (b.1884;d.1885)
3. David Little Graves (b.1885;d.1947)
  sp: Betty Jackson
  sp: Mary Elizabeth Unknown (b.1874)
3. Minnie L. Graves (b.1887)
  sp: Luther Rollins
3. Mattie E. Graves
  sp: Hampton ("Hamp") Watts
3. Rufus George Graves (b.1893;d.1934)
  sp: Mattie Eliza Holley
3. Paul Dexter Graves (b.1894)
  sp: Helen Stroupe
3. Benjamin G. Graves (b.1896;d.1930)
  sp: Lillie Atkisson
3. Lucy Graves (b.1899;d.1906)


Title: Re: Graves / Sellars / Jordan family bibles
Post by TigerInGA on Dec 13th, 2003, 11:34am


Hopfully Descendants of Rosan or Rosanna Sellers & Loyd David Jordan may have some documents.  Only two generations giving here.

Prepared on 13 Dec 2003

1. Rosan or Rosanna Sellers (b.1829;d.1897)
  sp: Loyd David Jordan (b.1819;m.1845;d.1899)
2. Wm. Jackson Jordan (b.1847)
2. Bud Jordan (b.1848)
2. Martha Jordan (b.1849)
2. Mary Jordan (b.1852)
2. LeVander Jackson Jordan (b.1866;d.1941)
2. Charles M. Jordan (b.1869;d.1951)




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MARTIN, thank you for sharing.

 

CAN YOU explain the census below?

 

have you studied the 1880 census on CYNTHIA SELLERS GRAVES son SMILIE listed as a Nephew of June/Jane? SELLERS with a SS Stephen Sellers.

 

Is she Jane Baxter SELLERS that married as second wife to Roland Sellers?

and from memory a ??? Sellers was a witness on her pension file.

 

WE are missing some 1860/1870 census on these famiies, if you have extracted, please send.

 

DO we have a death certificate on Roseanne Sellers JORDAN 1820? parents = ?

WE must follow ALL census/ etc thro to kinda SEE the families.

DO YOU have ANY one else listed with a father JOE SELLERS?

IF father of Roseanne 1820, he would be born ca 1800?

 

HELP where you can. marie, iowa

 

 

1840 CHESTERFIELD CO, SC

Rolen 0-2-3-1-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0/1-3-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0, 3 3 DAU = 5/10 = 1830/35

(Roland has NO sons born in 1820 census=to have dau 1831-HE has no kids in 1820! and Roseanne Jordan was born 1820??

age on 1850 census =?

 

1850 CHESTERFIELD CO, SC

692/Jane Sellers 40 F $500 SC, PAGE 143

William R. " 27 M Farmer 500 SC

Mahala A." 20 F SC

Mary A. " 19 F SC

Stephen D. " 16 M Farmer SC

Alfred F. 15 M None SC

Susannah " 14 F SC (twin)

Sarah A. " 14 F SC (twin)

Flora " 6 F SC

Lucy " 4 F SC

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1870 Chesterfield., SC Federal Census (from mdgraves@bellsouth.net

Syntha GRAVES 39 fw SC (born ca 1831)

John GRAVES 12 mw "

Della 15 fw "

Rose Anne 13 fw "

Smiley 11 mw "

Jackson 10 mw "

Willm 8 mw "

 

 

 

1880 =Census Place: Mount Croghan, Chesterfield, South Carolina

 Source: FHL Film 1255225  National Archives Film T9-1225     Page 353A

 Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace

June SELLERS Self F W W 69 SC(is this JaneBaxter Sellers?msh)

 Occ: Keeping House Fa: SC Mo: MA

Flory SELLERS Dau F S W 23 SC

 Occ: At Home Fa: SC Mo: SC

Lucy SELLERS Dau F S W 31 SC

 Occ: At Home Fa: SC Mo: SC

Stephen SELLERS SSon M S W 52 SC

 Occ: At Home Fa: SC Mo: SC

Sue SELLERS SDau F S W 38 SC

 Occ: At Home Fa: SC Mo: SC

Smiley GRAVES Nephew M S W 21 SC

 Occ: Laborer Fa: NC Mo: SC

 

 

I will work on getting death certificate of ROSEANNE SELLERS JORDAN &

CYNTHIA SELLERS GRAVES

 

CYNTHIA SELLERS GRAVES was living in Montgomery Co., North Carolina in 1860,

with Benjamin Bennett Graves.

 

JUNE SELLERS appears to be the step-mother of the children in 1880 Census.

What conversation I have read on that family, the exact details of JUNE and

late husband are unclear.  I may be wrong.

 

Martin

 

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MARTIN, thanks.

IF CYNTHIA SELLERS GRAVES child SMILIE is a Nephew to Jane SELLERS = he would be a child of her or her husbands brother and sister.

WE have None of her brother/sisters?

WE don't have Roland or Philips kids do we?

Just Hardy's kids = Phillip SELLERS that is suppose to be father of Roland??

 

WAR OF 1812 FILE =

ROLAND SELLERS 1793  married MARGARET EDDINS that died 1841.

ROLAND SELLERS 1793 married JANE BAXTER SELLERS in 1842

SO kids born 1842 and before would be STEPCHILDREN of JANE.

Was she a BAXTER or a SELLERS?

SHE was 32 years of age when she married ROLAND SELLERS.

WAS she married to a SELLERS BEFORE?

LOTS of questions.

THANKS for sharing.

 

in 1879 a witness to JANE SELLERS born ca 1810 =

1812 War File of Rolen SELLERS died 1848=

JOSEPH B. SELLERS, 65 yrs old,(ca 1814,msh)

CHESTERFIELD, SC had known her   60 years! doesnt quite add up to their ages?

BUT, where is he on a census?

 

This may be a key

AND also all these SELLERS kids living with others in 1850 census.

DID our mother remarry? and ages/names don't show till 1850.

Very possible.

 

STUDY, each child. sorry, marie, iowa

GRAVES FAMILY chart

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