JAC'S PAGE
Jacqui & Gary McMahon
jacnmac@netdex.com
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ANNA SELLERS MCMAHON 1838/1922
CARRIE MCMAHON1871/1940
Dau of Anna Sellers and James McMahon
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jan, 2003
Jacqui & Gary McMahon [jacnmac@netdex.com]
I have been looking for a woman named Anna Sellers born 1841] married James
H. McMahon. They lived in Delphi, Carroll County,
Indiana in the 1880's. She ran a boarding house and he was a carpenter.
They had three daughters: Elizabeth 1864; Eila-1868; Carri B. 1871.
Do these names mean anything?
Thank You
Jac McMahon
jacnmac@netdex.com
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JAMES MCMAHON in Adams Co. Indiana Nov.01,1861.
ANNA SELLERS B/1844 MI (this should be Allen Co, IN,? msh.)
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Allen County, Indiana Index to Marriage Records A-Z 1824-1920
ANNA SELLERS and JAMES MC MAHON maried Nov 4, 1861, = book 5, page 53?
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8 Nov
2001 12:27:24 -0700
From:
jacnmac@netdex.com
Looking for any information on Ann
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JAC,
WHO, WHEN, WHERE did the child you connect marry?
HER birth place ?
See them in 1880 CARROLL CO, IN,
Don't have the 1870 census posted on them.
WHEN/WHERE did anyone die?
MIGHT help trace/follow them.
Then we could check MICHIGAN census for her parents.
SEND what you can on Dates and Places.
Thanks, marie, iowa
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I only know that James McMahon was our GGGF's brother. I am trying to
trace the McMahon brothers to their parents. I am hoping that if I can find
James & Anna's daughters,that there might be something in their history to
help me go further.
In 1882 James wrote letters to the Civil War Pension Board to confirm that
James and Lewis E. McMahon of Barton County, MO, were in fact his nephews.He states
that he was in 1853 in Adams County, ILL. when James was born. He also mentions
niece, Augusta Ann McMahon, b/1860 in MO. She was later adopted by a doctor in
Kansas 1864-and never heard from again...
In the letters he wrote, the return address was from Delphi, Carroll County,
Ind........that's all I know of him. I got the additional information of his
family from the 1880 census. and found the marriage between Anna Sellers and
James McMahon.
Nephews of James- James H. McMahon and Lewis E. McMahon.......James last known
lived in Kansas married Emma Williams- and Lewis married Fanny Dillon and then
went on to Virginia where he later abandoned his family and about 1904ish was
not heard from again.........every thing I knew started with "hear say"-
when I searched for the true information but it stops at the Civil War......I
only know dates of births from census records and pension records beyond that.
It is possible that James McMahon and brother Joseph's mother might have been
Elizabeth since both named their first born daughters Elizabeth........
I have no knowledge that they were ever in Michigan but it would not surprise
me........Joseph McMahon married Mary Ann Southern in Cedar, Iowa in 1842.
Their daughter Elizabeth, was born about 1844 there. Then they were in Adams Co.ILL for son James birth-and Barton Co. MO for
the last two children, Lewis and Augusta.
(Cedar town = Blackhawk Co,
Ia, msh- Cedar Township = Benton Co, Ia, msh)
Cedar = Cedar Co, msh) and maybe other areas, msh)
Thanks for you time
Jac McMahon
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JAN 10, 2003
JAC, thanks.
did JAMES MCMAHON and ANNA SELLERS marry in 1861? ADAMS CO, IL or INDIANA?
Was JAMES MCMAHON 1823 IN Civil War?
SO, his Brother? kids = born 1850's ADAMS CO, IL
DO you have the 1860/70 CENSUS on them?
NEED.
Probably where ever they enlisted in CW = ?
WHERE?
ANNA SELLERS is the One BORN in MICHIGAN.
MCMAHON'S probably not there.
HER family moved to IL or IN = Whereever they married =
Fill in some gaps, esp marriage.
marie, iowa
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jan 13, 2003
JAC, thanks.
did JAMES MCMAHON and ANNA SELLERS marry in 1861 I do not know that?
ADAMS CO, IL or INDIANA .?
Was JAMES MCMAHON 1823 in Civil War I don't know....His brother, Joseph
McMahon was. James wrote letters to the CW Pension board to say that James
W[?] and Lewis E. McMahon, especially Lewis was indeed the son of Joseph.
SO, his Brother? kids = born 1850's ADAMS CO, IL
James brother, Joseph's SON James W[?] was born in Adams Co. ILL. * I have
found his name with a " W" and also an "H"..I don't know
what is correct yet...
DO you have the 1860/70 CENSUS on them? Only on Joseph's family for 1860 in
MO. 1870 Lewis is with a family named Baker in Barton Co. MO and James is with another family also in
Barton Co...1880 James is in Labette Co.Kansas. and Lewis is still in Barton Co. (James
1823 and Anna Sellers are in 1880 Carroll Co, msh)
NEED.
Probably where ever they enlisted in CW = ?Joseph lived on the boarder line
between Kansas and MO. ..Kansas is where he enlisted.....We believe that his
wife,Mary Ann and daughter Elizabeth, both died in about Jan 1863 from a fever,
according to a letter written by the woman who took in the McMahon children...
The letters that James sent from Indiana never talked about his family.
WHERE?
ANNA SELLERS is the One BORN in MICHIGAN. According to the Indiana census.
MCMAHON'S probably not there.
HER family moved to IL or IN = Whereever they married =
Fill in some gaps, esp marriage. I'll look again to see if I can find out
where I found the marriage taking place.
I am surprised that I don't find anything of his three daughters........school,
marriages -nothing....no James/Anna death records..unless they left Indiana
soon after 1882 when he wrote to the CW ?.
I will let you know as soon as I find[hopefully] the hard copy of the marriage
where abouts.
Thanks so much again,
Jac
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JAC, thanks.
Some towns have 1890ish city directories, esp on business.
WE need an 1870 IN census on this family and my cd's don;t work on WIN200O's
.
and I haven't sent them back in for the new ones.
ANYONE HAVE?
DO we have an INDEX with page #???
ASK for a look up on us genweb, ind/carroll co, and ADVISE.
thanks, marie, iowa
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I entered a query in Delphi......I'll ask my genealogy teacher if he can find
them on an index he might have.....I'll let you know what I find.
Thanks
Jac
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jun 9, 2003
Back in Jan. you graciously sent me the 1880 Carroll Co. Indiana census
on the McMahon family.
again I thank you.....I have since found where they had moved to Ohio
where the journey ends.
I just noticed now that your name is also Sellers! Anna McMahon was
also a Sellers. At least I think-as I have a marriage for James McMahon and
Anna Sellers[ looking for that note at the moment] in either Iowa or Indiana.
Do you know of such people in your lines?
Thank you
Jac McMahon
jacnmac@netdex.com
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JAC, send copies or extractions of documents = marriage and census.
SO others can find you and family in these counties/states.
I send copies of All info to our SELLERS discussion group with families in
many areas.
Thanks for sharing, marie, iowa
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Jas McMahan found in:
Census Microfilm Records: Indiana, 1870
Age: 40
Gender: M
Race: W
Birthplace: PA
State: Indiana
County: MADISON
Locale: ANDERSON
Series: M593
Roll: 336
Part: 1
Page: 62A
living in hotel? lumberman?
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McMahan, A.
Age: 54
Gender: M
Race: W
Birthplace: OH
State: Indiana
County: ALLEN
Locale: MADISON TWP
Series: M593
Roll: 298
Part: 1
Page: 534A
McMahan, Elisabeth
Age: 52
Gender: F
Race: W
Birthplace: OH
State: Indiana
County: ALLEN
Locale: LAKE TWP
Series: M593
Roll: 298
Part: 1
Page: 508A
McMahan, H. C.
Age: 26
Gender: M
Race: W
Birthplace: IN
State: Indiana
County: ALLEN
Locale: ADAMS TWP
Series: M593
Roll: 297
Part: 1
Page: 169A
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1880 CARROLL CO, IN
Census Place: Delphi, Carroll, Indiana
Source: FHL Film 1254267 National Archives Film
T9-0267 Page 83A
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
James MC MAHON Self M M W 57 PA ca 1823 (ck1870 Miami Co.IN,msh)
Occ: Carpenter Fa: IRE Mo: IRE
Anna MC MAHON Wife F M W 39 MI ca 1841 (SELLERS per Jac)
Occ: Boarding House Fa: NY Mo: PA
Elizabeth MC MAHON Dau F S W 16 IN ca 1864
Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: MI
Ella MC MAHON Dau F S W 12 IN
Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: MI
Carria B. MC MAHON Dau F S W 9 IN
Fa: PA Mo: MI
O. C. ERVIN Other M S W 23 IN
Occ: Boarder Fa: OH Mo: OH
Joseph TAYLOR Other M S W 28 IN
Occ: Boarder And Painter Fa: KY Mo: PA
Theodore JONES Other M S W 26 OH
Occ: Laborer Fa: PA Mo: OH
John PRUETT Other M W W 45 IN
Occ: Carpenter Fa: VA Mo: KY
John STOUT Other M S W 24 IN
Occ: Laborer Fa: OH Mo: OH
Census Place: Cutler, Carroll, Indiana
Source: FHL Film 1254267 National Archives Film
T9-0267 Page 173C
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
William SELLERS Self M M W 43 IN
Occ: Lumber Dealer Fa: VA Mo: VA
Matilda SELLERS Wife F M W 36 IN
Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: TN
Emma A. SELLERS Dau F S W 15 IN
Occ: At Home Fa: IN Mo: IN
Charlie M. SELLERS Son M S W 6 IN
Fa: IN Mo: IN
1900 = didn't find = ck OHIO
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civil war? = no anna as wife
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ames McMahan |
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Sarah A. McMahan |
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James McMahan |
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Joseph McMahan |
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july 10, 2003
JAC, thanks.
have the Sellers discussion group and research ALL SELLERS. I do NOT
see/prove this SELLERS family.
Would appreciate ANY info you have =
marriage
first child born
died
lived in 1900
lived last proven place =
I did a fast look at Mcmahans and did see some from Ireland and Pa, but no
proof.
I will try and save these notes.
I did see the WM SELLERS here in Carroll Co., In where James and Anna lived in
1880, but, no proof.
There Obit may tell something, if you can send last county/state they lived.
THANKS for sharing, marie, iowa
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JULY 8, 2003
I found Anna. Sometime after James death she left with her two remaining daughters,Ella
and Carrie, Ella's husband and children going to Dayton, Ohio. She died there in 1922.
I am still looking for who Anna Sellers McMahon's family was.
Her birth year is ranging from 1832-1844. Her father was born in N.Y. and
mother in Penn. Ella married Charles Gradel of Ohio,
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1900 MONT CO, OH
CHARLES GRADEL 44
ELLEN 32 IN, DAD PA, MOM MI, M 13 YRS, 2 KIDS, 2 LIVING
WM 11 IN
CATHERINE 10 IN
ANNA MCMHON , JULY 1827, 62 , MI, WIDOW 7KIDS 3 LIVING, DAD NY, MOM PA
didn't check neighbors
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july 10, 2003
JAC, thanks, this helps.
she should have an obit. we need.
I believe I saw a family in 1850 (1870) MI with a dau? carrie,
might be interesting.
http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellerfamily/mich.htm
Keep us uptodate. marie, iowa
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july 11, 2003
from jac
----- Original Message -----
From: marie sellers hollinger
To: SELLERS ; Jacqui & Gary McMahon
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: RE: McMahon family/CARROLL CO, IN
JAC, thanks.
have the Sellers discussion group and research ALL SELLERS. I do NOT
see/prove this SELLERS family.
Would appreciate ANY info you have = Anna [Sellers] McMahon born in MI -1841 [census records for IN 1880] All census records
for her state her mother was born in PA and father in N.Y.
marriage to James McMahon Nov.01,1861 [I think this is from IND mariage records
[from a family member]
first child born Elizabeth b/IND 1864-died between 1882-1900-possibly in Delphi-;
2nd dau-Ella [married Charles Gradel] she was b/IND.1868-died Dayton,Ohio 19April1940; 3rd dau. Carrie B. b/IND.1871-never
married died Dayton, Ohio Feb 19,1940
died Anna McMahon died in Dayton Ohio-18Nov1922 .....cemetery records at
Woodland Cemetery
lived in 1900 Dayton,Ohio-with two younger daughters and Ella's husband and
children
lived last proven place = Census records for the Dayton,Ohio,1920 say
that Anna is living with daughter Carrie B.........by 1930 Carried B. is now
living with her married sister, Ella. Carrie died Feb 19,1940 -Cemetery records
I did a fast look at Mcmahans and did see some from Ireland and Pa, but no
proof. All census records I have for the McMahon brothers says the same
thing.......Joseph McMahon was born in PA. in 1815. Brother James also in PA.
but in 1823.
We have known from family members that their parents had come from Ireland.
I will try and save these notes.
I did see the WM SELLERS here in Carroll Co., In where James and Anna lived
in 1880, but, no proof. I have signed letters that James McMahon wrote
to the Civil War Pension Board on behalf of his brother, Joseph's youngest
son, Lewis E. McMahon-on how he was their uncle and what he knew of the family.
His address in 1882 was Delphi, Carroll Co. Ind.
The Obit may tell something, if you can send last county/state they
lived.
since at the 1900 census Anna McMahon is living with her daughters and
son-in -law. she said on that census record that she was a widow.
THANKS for sharing, marie, iowa
The Obit may tell something, if you can send last county/state they
lived.
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july 11, 2003
JAC, thanks,
WHERE is CARRIE in 1900 ?
1900 MONT CO, OH
CHARLES GRADEL 44
ELLEN 32 IN, DAD PA, MOM MI, M 13 YRS 2KIDS/2 LIVING
WM 11 IN,
CATHERINE 10 IN
ANNA MCMAHON , MIL, JULY 1837, 62 MI, WIDOW, DAD NY, MOM PA, 7 KIDS, 3 LIVING
(SELLERS per Jac)
didn't do neighbors!
marie, iowa
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july 11, 2003
JAC, thanks. found them in 1900 MONT CO, OH.
DIDN'T check 1910 and 1920 and 1930 = NEED they are there also....
1910- they all live together 1920-Anna is living with her daughter Carrie- by
1930 Carrie is living with her married sister, Ella McMahon Gradel. Anna has
died by now.
IF you have extracted this INFO, PLEASE SEND. do you have a fax?
Lets our SELLERS family see you - we can check that county and others Might
find you/us!
MY records do NOT include CARROLL CO, IN. = marriages = NEED I am
looking again for that one.......
SHE could have a middle/other name on the 1850/60 census. never saw one
SHE will probably have an obit in MONT CO, OH? I don't know that yet-I just
got the information on the fact they went to Ohio this week!
SOMETIMES, you need to start at the END and work backwards to PROVE. I
am sending away for the death certificate.
DID you check Civil War records for McMahon, perhaps, I already asked???
I don't know if james served in the was if he did it would have been Union....I
only have the records for James brother Joseph.
YES, memory, that is how you found in IL and to IN. In a letter
to the Board-James said he was there are the birth of Joseph's first born son,
James, in Adams Co. ILL. that was in 1853.
I did NOT check IL marriages = they weren't listed in my IN marriages = which
did NOT include CARROLL CO, IN=
YOU must check the sources of the marriages to see if ALL counties included!!
DID you check the MICHIGAN page ? I believe the CARRIE SELLERS was listed in
another census, etc. Carried never lived apart from her mother until Anna
died.
I will forward you a letter from member who also checked 1850 MI census.
THANKS for sharing our SELLERS.
marie, iowa
july 12, 2003
----- Original Message -----
From: marie sellers hollinger
To: SELLERS ; Jacqui & Gary McMahon
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 6:13 AM
Subject: RE: McMahon family/CARROLL CO, IN/MONT CO, OH
JAC, thanks,
WHERE is CARRIE in 1900 ?
1900 MONT CO, OH
CHARLES GRADEL 44
ELLEN [Ella] 32 IN, DAD PA, MOM MI, M 13 YRS 2KIDS/2 LIVING
WM 11 IN,
CATHERINE 10 IN I have also found it as Kathryn, in 1900 it's
Catherina
ANNA MCMAHON , MIL, JULY 1837, 62 MI, WIDOW, DAD NY, MOM PA, 7 KIDS, 3 LIVING
(SELLERS per Jac)
didn't do neighbors! none about were related as far as I could see. do you
want them too? 1900-Hastings on one side & "Figei"? on the other
side. No one else I recognize. 1910 Anna and Crrie are on Creamer St. neighbors
are not family-that I can see.......Anna is listed as Head, 69, W,
3,3,MI,NY,PA. Carrie:daughter, F,W,28, S, Ohio,PA.,MI,sales clerk, dry
goods store.
do you have a fax?
marie, iowa
july 12, 2003
JAC, thanks.
I still don't see CARRIE MCMAHON born ca 1871 IN on this 1900 census?
sometimes you have to SHOW = print it out in front of me. sorry.
NOW, help me/us with this.
Allen County, Indiana Index to Marriage Records A-Z 1824-1920
ANNA SELLERS and JAMES MC MAHON married Nov 4, 1861, = book 5, page 53?
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YOU show ADAMS CO, IN?, which I think is right next door?
BUT, WE do have SELLERS and MCMAHONS in ALLEN CO, IN. I extracted the
1860
without finding much proof and perhaps should do 1870. Have you already
done these?
My computer doesn't seem to be typing this correctly???
My Fax = 641-423-4851, but, I need to have it plugged in. it is plugged in
now and tomorrow am till at least 9 or 10 am and longer if you advise.
marie, iowa
1860 ALLEN CO, IN CENSUS
WM SELLERS 74 MD, LAND, PAGE 281 LAKE TWN
LIDYA 52 PA,
DANIEL? A. KING 10 PA
JOHN SELLER 52/57 FRANCE , CARPENTER, PAGE 816 WAYNE
MARY 53 FRANCE
JULIE A. 18 FRANCE
JOHN SELLERS 28 SCOTLAND, MASON, PAGE 508 ADAMS TWP
living with
ROBERT WABB/MABB? 55 NY, MILLER
SARAH 45 PA
ANN 23 MI
JANE 12 MI
GEORGE 8 MI
JAMES MCMAHAN 78 IRELAND, PAGE 294 LAKE TWN
ELLEN 58 IRELAND
ROBERT 22 NY
next
JOHN MCMAHAN 25 NY, PAGE 294, LAKE TWN
SYBRIA? 28 swabia?
JOHN W. 2 IN
ELISABETH 8/12 IN
close
FAZON
JOHN MCMAHAN 5 IN, page 257 Wash Twn
CAROLINE MCMAKEN? 22 OH, PAGE 269 WASH TWN
living with
JAMES PIERCE 33 NY
BETSY 60 VERMONT
JOHN C. MCMAHON 30 OH, PAGE 706 PLEASANT
WILLIAM MCMAHAN 30 IRELAND, PAGE 284 LAKE
july 13, 2003
I believe that Carrie is in Indiana 1900. she is living as "a
daughter" but these are for sure not her parents.....they probably took
this Carrie in as a daughter?
Township of:South town, Coon County, Chicago, Ill.
http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi?SEC=Illinois&IN=012637&PN=269a&CD=917
page 2 at the bottom of the page
Do you think this is her? Do you have members in the family with this
name of the "parents" listed?
chat later
Jac
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Jac, didn't come thru, etc.
this url just takes me to census and when i go to states/countys = no carrie
sellers =
just send census info with page number, etc.
Someone faxed me this am, about 10am and my answering machine came on before i
answered or received. was it you? i didn't receive.
marie, iowa
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DON'T THINK SO =
1900 COOK CO, IL
SAN??? VALANTA (Nalsanta?) 58 ITALY
FANNIE 46 MI
CARRIE MCMAHAN 28 IL, , DAU , DAD ITALY,. MOM MI
WIFE OF DANIEL MCMAHAN 33 IL
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from ???? is this from Jac?
http://www.geocities.com/gmanpurvis/cem1.html#Tobe
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Look at this Carrie McMahon's birthdate.Oct.1871.......it's is the same for
James/Anna's daughter.....the Italy stuff can't figure, but she is from Indiana
and her mother is Michigan ....Italy could be from what they might have said to
the census taker ?....she is also single and has a McMahon name? while they
have "Nalsanta".
Carrie is not in Delphi in 1900.....I will keep looking for her if this is not
our Carrie.
Census Microfilm Records, Illinois, 1900
Ill. Cook Co. Roll 250 Book 1 Page 269a
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JAC, i tried to find this Fannie and husband in 1880, but, don't believe i have
correct spelling and i tried your extraction also. would feel more correct.?
Couldn't find
Daniels marriage either! marie, iowa
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Perhaps this is not our Carrie! there is no Italy in
our line! Irish -no Italy
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Yes!
I saw that entry. He head male is from Italy-Valenta but the female is from
Michigan/1853- I cn't make it out -either Francis or Fannie. Carrie/b ILL Oct.1871
is listed as a "daughter" but she is carring the McMahon name and not
theirs so I think it might be a cousin/ aunt she's living with.
Were the Sellers in Adams Co, ILL in the 1850's Exactly where?
Jac McMahon
JAC, thanks.
May not have complete 1850 census. I would recheck for more names.
OUR SELLERS may NOT be here YET.
JUST MCMAHANS
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1850 ADAMS CO, IL CENSUS =
WILLIAM SELLERS, PAGE 45 COLUMBUS
William Sellers 66 b. VA married to a Mary 64
b. Ky with Sarah E. 21 b. IN. on the 1850 Adams Co. Census.
Bev, WA
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I believe you stated CW file of Joseph MCMAHON stated = his brother James was in Adams Co, IL in 1853 when Joseph's son James was born.IN 1853?
IF this was CW file of Joseph McMahon, doesn't it show When/Where he was born? =
When/Where he enlisted? =
Married 1842 Cedar Co, Ia
1850 CENSUS =
I haven't searched MCMAHON'S except on the info you gave me about his brother James married our ANNA SELLERS born ca 1841 MI.
YOU might check each census out to follow your family.
DO a time chart =
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I kinda think our ANNA SELLERS 1841 MI and JAMES MCMAHON =
married 1861 ALLEN CO, IN
1870 MIAMI, IN, PERU TWN, PAGE
JAMES MCMAHAN 47 PA, ca 1823 CARP (CK 1880 CARROLL )
ANNIE 30 MICH ca 1840 (SELLERS per Jac)
ANDREW 10 IN (1860 IN)
LIZZIE J. 8 IN
ELLA 3 IN
and
1880 CARROLL CO, IN
marie, iowa
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Wow! that's new news!
Thanks...James McMahon stated in his deposition to the fact that he lived for
two years near his brother, Joseph, in Adams Co. Ill in 1853 and that he was
there when James(the nephew) was born to Joseph and Anna.He said April 20,1853
and James later states his birthday is May 11, 1853 (they have the year the
same). The CW Pension files do not say where he was born.(all census say PA)
Most of the file is proving that Lewis and James were the children of Joseph.
Joseph enlisted in the Union Army in Kansas. He died in April of 1863. Joseph's
wife died in Jan. of 1863. I do not know for sure if James might have been in
the service at the same time. If so he'd have also been Union.
Mary Ann Southern and Joseph were married Sept 24,1842,
Center,Cedar Co. There were Sellers there in 1850.
SEPT 10, 2004
Hi
It's been a while and I did not forget you but I was tracking down that James McMahon family! I did it!
Here's the scoop now:
Anna Sellers McMahon died in Dayton,Ohio Nov.18,1922
James and Anna had several children: We knew of Elizabeth;Ella; and Carrie, but there had been a boy, Andrew, born in Peru, Miami Co, Ind. (where the girls were also born). Then there were a couple other infants that died.
I never found out what happened to daughter Elizabeth-but she did not go with the family to Ohio after James died, like Anna ,Carried Ella Ella's 2 children(Kathryn and William C. Gradel and Ella's husband Charles Gradel did.
(note in Anna's obit it said she has 3 surviving children.......Carrie, Ella and who? Elizabeth?-unless Elizabeth married and went elsewhere...
James McMahon died in Delphi Sept 14,1885 at the age of 66. (Ind. Health Records)
Who were Anna Sellers family? All I know is she was born in Michigan and her father was born in N/Y and mother in PA.
Did any of the her related Sellers live in Adams County,ILL. in 1853ish? If so who and where and when? I am trying to figure if the families knew each other from Anna's mothers side- as James and brother his Joseph, were born in PA.
Somewhere they met.
James lived in 1853 in Adams County, ILL. a mile from his brother Joseph.(letter to the CW pension board). There is nothing in the Pension board says where they were born or about the family-except that Joseph had no surviving spouse when he died( naturally-she died in Jan 0f 1863 and he April of '63)
chat soon
Jac McMahon
JAC,
thanks for keeping in touch.
WE need 1850/60 census on MCMAHON and SELLERS.
don't see our SELLERS.
do you have MCMAHON'S ? =
JAMES MCMAHON 1823 PA//1885 CARROLL CO, IN should have an obit/ death cert =
contact Genealogy Society or Library. etc
ANNA SELLERS MCMAHON 1838/1922 Dayton, Mont Co, OH probably has obit/death cert =
contact same as above
SOME info may be on line from Lookups on usgenweb boards on these counties.
ONLY TIME LINE/INFO I see =
NOV 4, 1861 ALLEN CO, IN=
ALLEN CO, IN (not ADAM CO,
IN) Index to Marriage Records A-Z 1824-1920
ANNA SELLERS and JAMES MC MAHON married Nov 4, 1861, = book 5,
1870 MIAMI, IN, PERU TWN, PAGE
JAMES MCMAHAN 47 PA, ca 1823 CARP (CK 1880 CARROLL )
ANNIE 30 MICH ca 1840 (SELLERS per
Jac)
ANDREW 10 IN (1860 IN)
LIZZIE J. 8 IN
ELLA 3 IN
1880 CARROLL CO, IN
Census
Place: Delphi, Carroll, Indiana
Source: FHL Film 1254267 National Archives Film
T9-0267 Page 83A
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
James MC MAHON Self M M W 57 PA ca 1823 (ck1870 Miami Co.IN,msh)
Occ: Carpenter Fa: IRE Mo: IRE
Anna MC MAHON Wife F M W 39 MI ca 1841 (SELLERS per Jac)
Occ: Boarding House Fa: NY Mo: PA
Elizabeth MC MAHON Dau F S W 16 IN ca 1864
Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: MI
Ella MC MAHON Dau F S W 12 IN
Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: MI
Carria B. MC MAHON Dau F S W 9 IN
Fa: PA Mo: MI
=
and he died 1885 and she
went to
1900 MONT CO, OH
CHARLES GRADEL 44
ELLEN 32 IN, DAD PA, MOM MI, M 13 YRS, 2 KIDS, 2 LIVING
WM 11 IN
CATHERINE 10 IN
ANNA MCMHON , JULY 1827, 62 , MI, WIDOW 7KIDS 3 LIVING, DAD NY, MOM PA
====
WE could check out the kids = Andrew and Elizabeth McMahons
and see who married Miami/ Carroll Co, IN
Thanks for sharing, perhaps someone knows this family.
marie, iowa
SEPT 2004
This is how I found out about
Elizabeth: This lady is from Mary
Ann
Southern McMahon's line.
----- Original Message -----
From: "c trier"
<ct@JoiMail.com>
To: <jacnmac@netdex.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004
5:52 PM
Subject: Lewis E McMahon
> I am looking for Lewis' parents
Joseph and Mary Ann McMahon in the 1870
and
> 1880 census. Unfortunately the spelling of their
name is all over the map
> and so was the family. I found them living with Joseph's
mother Elizabeth
> in 1850 in Salem, Tuscarawas, Ohio. In 1860 they were in Union, Barton,
> Missouri listed as Mcmayhon and
incorrectly transcribed as Mcmeglion on
> ancestry.com.
> I am a descendant of Mary Ann's
parents, John and Elizabeth Duncan
Southern.
Ø
Connie
JAC, thanks, helps see
them. marie, iowa
JAC,
thanks for keeping in touch.
WE need 1850/60 census on MCMAHON and SELLERS.
don't see our SELLERS.
do you have MCMAHON'S ? =I am sending you what I have......actually it was sent.
JAMES MCMAHON 1823 PA//1885 CARROLL CO, IN should have an obit/ death cert =
contact Genealogy Society or Library. etc I just have the Health department:
The
Vital death records for Delphi, Indiana said:
James McMahon
Date: Sept.14,1885
Location:Delphi
Age:66
Sex:male
Color:W
source of location: city Health Office,Delphi
source notes: The source of this record is in the book H-10 on page 244 within
the series produced by the Indiana Works Progress Administration
ANNA SELLERS MCMAHON 1838/1922 Dayton, Mont Co, OH probably has obit/death cert =
contact same as above At the moment I only have the obit from the papers-see attachment.
SOME info may be on line from Lookups on usgenweb boards on these counties.
ONLY TIME LINE/INFO I see =
NOV 4, 1861 ALLEN CO, IN=
ALLEN CO, IN (not ADAM CO,
IN) Index to Marriage Records A-Z 1824-1920
ANNA SELLERS and JAMES MC MAHON married Nov 4, 1861, = book 5,
1870 MIAMI, IN, PERU TWN, PAGE
JAMES MCMAHAN 47 PA, ca 1823 CARP (CK 1880 CARROLL )
ANNIE 30 MICH ca 1840 (SELLERS per
Jac)
ANDREW 10 IN (1860 IN)
LIZZIE J. 8 IN
ELLA 3 IN
1880 CARROLL CO, IN
Census
Place: Delphi, Carroll, Indiana
Source: FHL Film 1254267 National Archives Film
T9-0267 Page 83A
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
James MC MAHON Self M M W 57 PA ca 1823 (ck1870 Miami Co.IN,msh)
Occ: Carpenter Fa: IRE Mo: IRE
Anna MC MAHON Wife F M W 39 MI ca 1841 (SELLERS per Jac)
Occ: Boarding House Fa: NY Mo: PA
Elizabeth MC MAHON Dau F S W 16 IN ca 1864
Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: MI
Ella MC MAHON Dau F S W 12 IN
Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: MI
Carria B. MC MAHON Dau F S W 9 IN
Fa: PA Mo: MI
=
and he died and she went
to
1900 MONT CO, OH Dayton to
be exact...
CHARLES GRADEL 44
ELLEN 32 IN, DAD PA, MOM MI, M 13 YRS, 2 KIDS, 2 LIVING
WM 11 IN
CATHERINE 10 IN
ANNA MCMHON , JULY 1827, 62 , MI, WIDOW 7KIDS 3 LIVING, DAD NY, MOM PA Carrie joined them later.
Then Anna and Carrie lived together then after Anna
died Carrie moved back in with Ella
====
WE could check out the kids = Andrew and Elizabeth
McMahon's and see who married Miami/ Carroll Co, INI believe Andrew would have been 20 by the time of the 1880
census, so he could have married. (Carrie's obit said she had one niece(that's
Kathryn-three nephews-one from Ella-William C. and the other two I don't know?
Perhaps Elizabeth or possibly Andrew. The it also does not mention that
either Elizabeth or Andrew are alive. I doubted it as Elizabeth said on one of
the census records that she had 6 children and only 3 were
living.......Carrie's orbit only said she had one sister-Ella.......
Thanks for sharing, perhaps someone knows this family.
marie, iowa
-----Original
Message-----
From: Jacqui & Gary McMahon [mailto:jacnmac@netdex.com]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 3:39 PM
To: marie sellers hollinger
Subject: Sellers/McMahons
Hi
It's been a while and I did not forget you but I was tracking down that James McMahon family! I did it!
Here's
the scoop now:
Anna Sellers
McMahon died in Dayton,Ohio Nov.18,1922
James and Anna had several children: We knew of Elizabeth;Ella; and Carrie, but there had been a boy, Andrew, born in Peru, Miami Co, Ind. (where the girls were also born). Then there were a couple other infants that died.
I never found out what happened to daughter Elizabeth-but she did not go with the family to Ohio after James died, like Anna ,Carried Ella Ella's 2 children(Kathryn and William C. Gradel and Ella's husband Charles Gradel did.
(note in Anna's obit it said she has 3 surviving children.......Carrie, Ella and who? Elizabeth?-unless Elizabeth married and went elsewhere...
James McMahon died in Delphi Sept 14,1885 at the age of 66. (Ind. Health Records)
Who were Anna Sellers family? All I know is she was born in Michigan and her father was born in N/Y and mother in PA.
Did any of the her related Sellers live in Adams County,ILL. in 1853ish? If so who and where and when? I am trying to figure if the families knew each other from Anna's mothers side- as James and brother his Joseph, were born in PA.
Somewhere they met.
James lived in 1853 in Adams County, ILL. a mile from his brother Joseph.(letter to the CW pension board). There is nothing in the Pension board says where they were born or about the family-except that Joseph had no surviving spouse when he died( naturally-she died in Jan 0f 1863 and he April of '63)
chat soon
Jac McMahon
===============
JAC,
thanks.
Your census show your JOSEPH MCMAHON 1814, but not our/your James McMahon 1819/1823/1885.
Can you prove any other kids of Elizabeth and ?
DID she have an obit ? =
WE have a lot of Old papers with Obits
Many Genealogy /Libraries have these , but, you must go to these local areas to obtain.
I have NOT been able to prove ANNA SELLERS 1838/41 MI to a family
SHE may be listed under another surname in census = esp if her mother remarried.
DEATH CERT may list parents =
I have had NO response from our SELLERS list, so evidently, they don't know WHO we are talking about!
BUT, that also may mean WE do Not know this SELLERS family and Need more info.
WE will link to IN and MI pages, in case someone sees us later down the line.
A copy of ANNA SELLERS/JAMES MCMAHON marriage could help. She does Not appear to be a Mrs,, but, info on same, may help?
AND Anna SELLERS may have a Middle name her parents used and she did Not.! very common.
I tried and checked these also. msh
THANKS for sharing SELLERS
marie,
iowa
=
NOV
2004
JAC,
thanks for keeping in touch.
WE
need 1850/60 census on MCMAHON I have a letter so far from James to the CW
Pension Board stating that he(James) lived one mile from Bro. Joseph when
nephew James was born in 1853. No census finding thus far-Joseph moved
sometime between 1850 and 1853 to ILL...... and SELLERS.
don't
see our SELLERS.
do
you have MCMAHON'S ? =I have the 1850 census for Joseph McMahon and
family, living with their mother,Elizabeth, in Salem,Ohio. Their father
must have died and Joseph came to live with Mom.Joseph had a daughter
named Martha, that was born in Ohio in abt 1849, but she's not with them in
1860-died? looking for her grave as I am their father.---Don't know where James
is at this time yet....
JAMES
MCMAHON 1823 PA//1885 CARROLL CO, IN should have an obit/ death cert =
contact
Genealogy Society or Library. etc James is listed in the death index for Carroll
Co. Ind. I have not as yet but will get to it soon,( I am gone quite a lot and
sometimes I forget to get back to what I was doing) see about sending for a
death certificate-if they have them for then........
ANNA
SELLERS MCMAHON 1838/1922 Dayton, Mont Co, OH probably has obit/death cert =
contact
same as above
I
did attempt to send for a death certificate and they wanted $53 total to send
it! $23 was for FED-EX!! So now I have asked my researcher in Ohio to see if he
can get it cheaper for me.
Well here I am AGAIN.....remember me ?
I found in the marriage records for Indiana that Ann(a) Mabb married a John
SELLERS June 18 1859. Then she married James H. McMahon in 1861. This was
the Anna Sellers we were looking for and could not find her family? It turned
out that her maiden name was Mabb. Now if this couple is in you data base
did they have(John and Ann) a son named Andrew? The reason for this question
is that in the 1870 census James Sellers and Anna have a son named Andrew
but he was born a year before James and Anna were married. Andrew is listed
in the 1870 census but not in the 1880's
Jac
This is 1860 census and the marriage records for Allen
Co. say they were married in June of 1859! Go figure......here Ann is
listed as still single.
I think Ann and John had the one son Andrew. John must have died soon after........When
she married McMahon he took on the boy as his own. They were Anna and McMahon
were married when Andrew was one year old.
so this is the end of this mystery.
Thanks again Marie for all you help!
It is quite possible that Andrew SELLERS 1860 IN is a SELLERS.
appreciate you sharing. will help others.
marie, iowa
1860 ALLEN CO, IN
JOHN SELLERS 28 SCOTLAND, MASON, PAGE 508 ADAMS TWP
living with
ROBERT WABB/MABB? 55 NY, MILLER(ck 1850 OAKLAND, MI)
SARAH 45 PA
ANN 23 MI (1837) (ck 1870 Miami Co, In)
JANE 12 MI
GEORGE 8 MI (1852)
County: Allen
Name: John Sellers
Spouse: Ann Mabb
Marriage Date: 18 Jun 1859
County: Allen
Name: Anna Sellers
Spouse: James Mc Mahon
Marriage Date: 04 Nov 1861
1870 MIAMI, IN, PERU TWN, PAGE
JAMES MCMAHAN 47 PA, ca 1823 CARP (CK 1880 CARROLL) ANNIE 30 MICH ca 1840
(SELLERS per Jac)MABB marriedSellers)
ANDREW 10 IN (1860 IN)this may be a SELLERS-where 1880?
ck out DeKalb Co, MO????msh
LIZZIE J. 8 IN
ELLA 3 IN
1880 CARROLL CO, IN Census Place: Delphi, Carroll, Indiana
Source: FHL Film 1254267 National Archives Film T9-0267 Page 83A
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
James MC MAHON Self M M W 57 PA
Occ: Carpenter Fa: IRE Mo: IRE
Anna MC MAHON Wife F M W 39 MI (SELLERS per Jac)
Occ: Boarding House Fa: NY Mo: PA
Elizabeth MC MAHON Dau F S W 16 IN
Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: MI
Ella MC MAHON Dau F S W 12 IN
Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: MI
Carria B. MC MAHON Dau F S W 9 IN
Fa: PA Mo: MI
O. C. ERVIN Other M S W 23 IN
Occ: Boarder Fa: OH Mo: OH
Joseph TAYLOR Other M S W 28 IN
Occ: Boarder And Painter Fa: KY Mo: PA
Theodore JONES Other M S W 26 OH
Occ: Laborer Fa: PA Mo: OH
John PRUETT Other M W W 45 IN
Occ: Carpenter Fa: VA Mo: KY
John STOUT Other M S W 24 IN
Occ: Laborer Fa: OH Mo: OH
I DO NOT know if this JOHN A. SELLERS is same or not. couldn't follow on
or
find a marriage.
1880 DEKALB CO, MO
John A. SELLERS Polk, De Kalb, MO <1861> Indiana , both parents IND,
no relation, LIVING with
James REDDING Self M Male W 54 NC Farmer NC NC
Lucinda REDDING Wife M Female W 52 NC Keeping House NC NC
James I. REDDING Son S Male W 22 MO NC NC
Lucinda V. REDDING Dau S Female W 16 MO NC NC
Mary A. REDDING Dau S Female W 13 MO NC NC
Ida L. REDDING Dau S Female W 8 MO NC NC
John A. SELLERS Other S Male W 19 IN Farm Hand IN IN
1880 HENRY CO, MO
Linsey REDDING Self M Male W 48 NC Farmer NC NC
Roda REDDING Wife M Female W 50 NC Keeps House NC NC
George REDDING Son S Male W 21 IN Farmer NC NC
Thomas REDDING Son S Male W 15 IN Farmer NC NC
William REDDING Son S Male W 7 IN At School NC NC
(this family may have been from WELLS CO, IN and I didn't see a SELLERS connection,
msh)
CK 1870 RAILS CO, MO
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march 31, 2005
JAC, thanks. I noticed that also. only possibility I saw to follow up on.
We should also check deaths/cemeteries in IN. he may have died also.
thanks for caring, marie, iowa
-----Original Message-----
From: Jacqui & Gary McMahon [mailto:jacnmac@netdex.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:59 PM
To: marie sellers hollinger
Subject: Re: JOHN SELLERS/ANN MABB?/ALLEN CO IN= JOHN ? ANDREW SELLERS 1860
IN/DEKALB CO, MO
Marie,
I do not think this is the Andrew...Andrew 's parents should be: father/Scotland
m/MI: himself b/IN.
thanks for checking
Jac
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