ISAAC SOLLARS 1786/1830
Subject:
Re:
Learner,Sellers,Miles Harper,Tom C Brown Natchez,MS-ARK-LA
Sun, 18 Nov 2001
13:43:05 -0800
From: ROBERT
"sollars"
<sollars@concentric.net>
Isaac Sollars (1786 St.Clair, PA - Mar 1830 Moscow,
Clermont Co., OH)
was the younger brother of Samuel Sollars, both being sons of Isaac and
Elizabeth Blackmore Sollers of Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Kentucky.
He
married "Patsy" in Concordia Parish, LA.
To this marriage was born five
known children:
Alexander Buchanan SOLLERS, 2 Jul 1815, LA;
Martha, 1816;
Julia Anne, 1826;
Lucy Anne, 1828; and
Ruth Jane in 1828.
Patsy Sollars
died in 1829 in LA or Claremont Co., OH. In marriage records, Isaac's
daughters carried the SOLLARS spelling.
However, Isaac's descendants through
son Alexander, carried the SOLLERS spelling, where Samuel and decsendants
carried the SOLLARS spelling.
Samuel's son, John Sollars, handled the estate of his
Uncle Isaac
Sollers and even made a trip to Natchez in settlement of same. Isaac's
wife's given name was Patsy. I would greatly appreciate
"exchanging"
information with anyone interested in this family. As well as more
information, I have some pictures of early Isaac and Patsy Sollers
descendants.
I don't follow the question, "Was LA
mentioned?" Was this asking if the
State of Louisiana mentioned? Could elaborate on this?
War of 1812 Muster Rolls: Name: Isaac Sollers, Company:
Declouet's
Regiment, Louisiana Militia. Enlisted as Sergeant. Discharged as Sergeant.
Roll Box: 195, Roll Extraction: 602, Roll Record:13901 - This is our Isaac
Sollars. If anyone has the wherewithall to look up this record, I would
dearly love a copy of what they find, as it may provide more details of just
where he and family lived in LA.
There was an Isaac SELLERS who was a noted steamboat
Captain, and if
memory serves, he was the first to use the nom de plume of Mark Twain, well
before the author of Tom Sawyer used it. As I remember it, he went up
the
Mississippi on a run, and died somewhere in the north. His body was returned
to New Orleans on his boat. When it neared the city, church bells rang and
steamboat whistles blarred loudly for this much loved man.
If you have details on this particular ISAAC SELLERS and
his life, I
know I for one would enjoy reading it. I'm sure others would as well.
Best regards to all, Bob Sollars
Robert C. Sollars
4715 Center Way
Eugene, OR 97405
1-541-343-2071
Email: sollars@concentric.net
Web Page: < http://www.sollars.org >
(This is my old Sollars site. I have new ones with many photos, on
MyFamily.com)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "marie sellers hollinger" <mari@netins.net>
To: "HERMON B FAGLEY" <hermfagley@juno.com>;
<SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com>;
<sollars@concentric.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:56 AM
Subject: Learner, Sellers, Miles Harper, Tom C Brown Natchez,
MS-ARK-LA
> Would there be any connection between Isaac and Samuel
SELLERS/SOLLARS of
> Clermont and Fayette Co, Oh?
> ISAAC SOLLARS had goods in MS when he died in 1830's.
> And was LA mentioned?
> marie, iowa
>
> HERMON B FAGLEY wrote:
>
> > PART IIIThis is the html version of the file
> >
http://www.centenary.edu/lib_tech/archives/part3.doc.
>
> G
o o g l e automatically generates html versions of
> > documents as we crawl the web.
> > These
search terms have been highlighted: learner blackman
> >
> > PART III
> > EARLY METHODIST CIRCUIT RIDERS
> >
> > AND THOSE WHO FOLLOWED THEM
> >
> > TO THE WASHITAWÃ AREA
> > AND TO
> > MONROE, LOUISIANA
> >
> > For the year given I have tried to show that names of the Bishops,
> > Presiding > > Elders, and Pastors and
appointments 1792-1969
> > >
> > > [REV LORENZO DOW WAS WITH BLACKMAN,1806-08 NATCHEZ
> >
> > Some missing data can be added later�.Some special events are
> > noted�.
> > Apointments to Natchez, from which grew Methodist work in
Mississippi,
> > Louisiana, Alabama and Texas âÂ?Â" and to
âÂ?ÂoWashitaâÂ?Â?, Monroe
> > and West Monroe.
> > Many humble, dedicated and self-sacrificing people have made
possible the
> >
> > Methodism of today.
> > >
> > HLJ July 28, 1969
> > >
> > EARLY METHODIST CIRCUIT RIDERS AND THOSE WHO FOLLOWED THEM TO
> > âÂ?ÂoWASHITAWâÂ?Â?
> > AREA AND TO MONROE, LOUISIANA
> >
> > YEAR BISHOP CONFERECE, DISTRICT PRESIDING
ELDERS APPOINTMENT
> >
> > 1801-03 ASBURY SOUTH CARLINA, GEORGIA STITH
MEAD NATCHEZ- TOBIAS
> > GIBSON
> >
> > 1803 ASBURY WESTERN KENTUCKY WM.
McKendree Natchez- Tobias Gibson
> >
> > 1804 Asbury Western Cumberland John
Page Natchez âÂ?Â" Moses
> > Floyd
>
>
(Tobias Gibson died on April 5, 1804)
> >
> > 1805 Asbury Western Cumberland Lewis Garrett
Natchez- Moses Floyd
> >
> > 1806 (In this year Elisha Brown visited New Orleans
and Opelousas)
> > Natchez
> > âÂ?Â" Learner Blackman
> >
>
>
(In this year Learner Blackman traveled in the Washitaw
> > area and Nathan Barnes
> >
>
>
and CAME TO MONROE (Washitaw Post) Sept 2, 1806)
> >
> > 1807 Western Mississippi District Learner
Blackman Natchez
âÂ?Â"
> > Nathan Barnes
>
>
Thomas Lasley
> >
> > 1808 (First appointment to âÂ?ÂoWASHITAWâÂ?Â?
Learner Blackman PE
> > Ochitto âÂ?Â"
> > Thomas Lasley
> >
> > 1809 Asbury Joseph Young
PE Washitaw âÂ?Â" Anthony Houston
> >
> > 1810 John McLure
PE Washitaw âÂ?Â" Isaac McKowen
> >
> > 1811 Asbury & McKendree Miles
Harper PE Washitaw âÂ?Â" John
> > Jennings
> >
> > 1812 Samuel
Dunwoody PE Washitaw âÂ?Â" Thomas Griffin
> >
> > 1813 Asbury&McKendree Tennessee Conference Louisiana District
Miles
> > Harper
> > Washitaw âÂ?Â" Miles Harper
> >
> > 1814 Samuel Sellers First Meeting of Mississippi
Conference at home of
> > Newt > > Vick
> >
>
>
**(On Nov. 14th 1814Conf. met on Nov 25th 1814, Richmond
> > Nolley died enroute to his appointment)
> >
> > 1815 Samuel Sellers Mississippi Conference
Louisiana District
> > Washitaw
> > âÂ?Â" Thos. Griffin
> >
> > 1816 No Bishop Mississippi Conference (La.Dist.omitted) (Shortage
of
men)
> >
> > Washitaw - unsupplied
> >
> > 1817 No Bishop Met Home of WM. & Rachel Foster La. Dist.Ashley
Hewitt
> > Washitaw- Ashley Hewitt
> >
> > 1818 No Bishop Met at Midway Louisiana District
> >
>
>
John
> > Menefee PE
> > Washitaw âÂ?Â" John Booth
> >
> > 1819 (Ashley Hewitt) Louisiana District
> >
>
>
John Menefee, PE
> > Washitaw
> > âÂ?Â" John Booth
> >
> > 1820 Enoch George Louisiana District
> >
>
>
Ashley Hewitt PE
> > Washitaw
> > âÂ?Â" Thos. Owens
> >
> > 1821 (Ashley Hewitt) Louisiana
District
> >
>
>
Ashley Hewitt PE
> > Washitaw
> > âÂ?Â" Ashley Hewitt
> >
> > 1822 Enoch George Louisiana District
> >
>
>
Ashley hewitt PE
> > Washitaw
> > âÂ?Â" Ashley Hewitt
> >
> > 1823 William Winans Louisiana District
> >
> >
Ebenezer Hearn PE
> > Washita
> > âÂ?Â" Alexander, WM.
> > 1824 Bishop Roberts Louisiana District
> >
>
>
Ebenezer Hearn, PE
> > Washita
> > âÂ?Â" Elijah B. McKay
> >
> > 1825 Bishop Joshua Soule Louisiana District
> >
>
>
Ashley Hewitt, PE
> > Washita
> > âÂ?Â" Thos. C. Brown
> >
> > 1826 Roberts & Soule Louisiana District
> >
> >
Alexander Talley, PE
> >
> > Washitaw âÂ?Â" John G. Jones
> >
>
>
*** (See Historian)
> >
> > 1827 Roberts & Soule Louisiana District
> >
>
>
Alexander Talley PE
> >
> > Washita- John Cotton
> >
> > 1828 Louisiana District
> >
>
>
Wm. Stephenson
> > Washita
> > âÂ?Â" Richard H. Herbert
> >
> > 1829 Louisiana District
> >
>
>
Wm. Stephenson
> > Washita
> > âÂ?Â" Francis A. McWilliams
> >
> > 1830 Bishop Roberts Louisiana
District
> >
> >
Wm. Stephenson
> > Washita
> > âÂ?Â" Jephthah Hughes
> >
> > 1831. Ebenezer Hearn
& Louisiana District
> >
> > Jas. H.
Holland Wm. Stephenson PE
Washitaw âÂ?Â" Isaac
> > Enochs
> >
> > 1832 Bishop Roberts First Mention to Monroe District
> >
>
>
Wm. Stephenson, PE
> > Washita âÂ?Â"
> > W. Leggett
> >
> > 1833 James O. Andrew Louisiana District
> >
>
>
O. L. Nash PE
> > Washitaw
> > âÂ?Â" S. Walker, J. Bilbo
> >
> > 1834 John B. Emory Louisiana District
> >
>
>
O. L. Nash PE
> > Monroe âÂ?Â"
> > J. P. Stephenson
> > 1835. William Winans Louisiana District
From:
HERMON B FAGLEY
<hermfagley@juno.com>
Marie,the Sellers of n e Bracken Co,Oh were near-in [?] Alexander
Buchanan's
fort a mile west of Germantown,Ky. The Alexander Buchanan's move,1798
era,5 miles north of Moscow -rivertown- Clermont Co,Oh,or just nw of nw
Bracken Co,Ky a few.
Said Alexander Buchanan,1772,was south of Uniontown,Fayette Co,Pa a few
miles
east of the 10 mile creek,sw Pa Sellers.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:56:18 -0600 marie sellers hollinger
<mari@netins.net> writes:
> Would there be any connection between Isaac and Samuel
> SELLERS/SOLLARS of
> Clermont and Fayette Co, Oh?
> ISAAC SOLLARS had goods in MS when he died in 1830's.
> And was LA mentioned?
> marie, iowa
Date:
Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:37:43 -0500
From:
HERMON B FAGLEY
<hermfagley@juno.com>
Marie,the Sellers of n e Bracken Co,Oh were near-in [?] Alexander
Buchanan's
fort a mile west of Germantown,Ky. The Alexander Buchanan's move,1798
era,5 miles north of Moscow -rivertown- Clermont Co,Oh,or just nw of nw
Bracken Co,Ky a few.
Said Alexander Buchanan,1772,was south of Uniontown,Fayette Co,Pa a few
miles
east of the 10 mile creek,sw Pa Sellers.
HERMON,
Still don't know WHO this SAMUEL SELLERS , methodist preacher is.
born ca 1790 or before?
IDEAS?
I believe these LA and MS counties lay across/NEXT from each other?
ANY MORE METHODIST CHURCH info?
Thanks for sharing,
marie, iowa
(ck Mathew Sellers 1743, son Samuel 1775, msh)
ROBERT, Thank You!
The LA = meant that my memory remembered something
about LA and it was NOT
in my papers on ISAAC SOLLERS and maybe you could remember. But, I believe
it was
you stating the kids born in LA (altho Alex states his birth place as
OH in 1815)
JOHN SOLLERS just made the trip to MS not LA?
(CONCORDIA, LA lays on the MS border and next to CATAHOULA)
Only possible marriages I found in Fayette Co,
Oh =
JULY ANN SOLLARS/JOHN REDER, DEC 1, 1846
ALEXANDER SOLLARS/MARY ANN TRUET,JUN 25, 1837 (think he stayed and buried
here)
might do a search or followup on her?
THE WAR OF 1812 INDEX =
NAME: Sollers, Isaac
RANK: Sergeant
COMPANY: De Clouet's
Reg't., La. Militia
BUT, the 1812 Pension list does NOT list him. So, assuming NO one applied
for pension or bounty land?
Didn't see any LA land grant for him.
I forgot about the Muster Roll till I reread your letter! Will check, If
I
have any info, will send. I doubt it.
There is an ISAAC SELLERS in
1810 ATTAKAPS PAR , LA=
ISAAC SELLERS, PAGE 80 = 01100-00100-00
WHEN do you think he think he went to LA?
and
CATAHOULA PARISH-1820
SELLERS, Isaac, page 17 (don't have the census info - DOES ANYONE HAVE,
please Send)
and
1830 CLERMONT CO, OH
ISAAC SOLLERS, PAGE 239 MOSCOW
0010001-2111=
male 40/50 , =1780/90
male 10/15,=1815/20
and oldest female 15/20 = 1810/15
and females
10/15,=1820/30
5/10,=1820/25
and two females u 5=1825/30
Don't seem to have much on LA marriages which would sure help! ANYONE
HAVE?
Please Send.
ISAIAH SELLERS info =
http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellerfamily/isaiah.htm
I believe you have to be "Invited" to look at myfamily.com files, etc?
Thank you for sharing and best wishes for the holidays.
marie, iowa
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From:
"sollars" <sollars@concentric.net>
To:
"marie
sellers hollinger" <mari@netins.net>, "HERMON B FAGLEY"
<hermfagley@juno.com>,
<SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com>
References:
1 , 2 , 3 , 4
Marie,
Glad to be of help and hope others out there can
contribute to the
growing file.
I have it that all the children were born in
Louisiana. I presume that
Isaac Lost his wife Patsy, during or within days of the birth of their last
daughter in Louisiana and promptly moved to Claremont Co., OH., possibly in
ill health himself at the time and wishing to be closer to his siblings.
Son, Alexander Buchanan (A B) Sollars, was born July 2, 1815 in
"Louisiana." AB went to Adams County (adjacent to Ross
County) Ohio and
married Mary Jane Hamilton about 1856. A. B. was a circuit
rider for the
Methodist church. He died in 1895 in Peeples, Adams County,
Ohio.
I have to question his above year of birth... According to his
father's
estate papers, dated 8 Nov 1830, Alexander B. Sollers was 12 years of age.
this would make his year of birth 1818, not 1815, and his sister Martha
Sollars as 14 years of age (being born in 1816). This is backed up by
the
1830 Census of Claremont Co., OH that shows him younger than his sister
Martha Sollars who was born in 1816.
Some of the children may have returned to Louisiana to live
with their
maternal grandparents or possibly maternal aunts and uncles. This
would
explain why no marriages are found for them in OH.
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I believe this part is from ROBERT SOLLARS
This Fayette Co., OH marriage: ALEXANDER SOLLARS/MARY ANN
TRUET, JUN 25,
1837, is from my branch of the Sollars Family Tree. He was the
son of John
and Catherine Stothard Sollars, born in 1813, OH. John and my
gr-grandfather, Truman R. Sollars, were 1st cousins.
Database: Louisiana Census, 1810-90
Combined Matches: 1
Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info
Record
Type Database ID#
1860 SOLLERS A. B. Orleans Parish LA 995 New Orleans 11th Ward Federal
Population Schedule LA 1860 Federal Census Index LA390110974
I'd say A. B's stay in Orleans Parish, LA was brief if the birth of their
children is any record... It reads like a roadmap!
1. Wilbur Kavanaugh Sollers, 31 Mar 1858, in Lawrence Co., OH
2. George Henry Sollers, 4 Jan 1860, in MO
3. Mary Bushy Sollers, 4 Feb 1861, in (?)
4. Lavinia Gillespie Sollers, 27 May 1863, in (?)
5. Robert Lee Sollers, 20 Oct 1864, in KY
6. Elizabeth Ann Sollers, 6 Dec 1866, in (?)
7. Louella B. Sollers, 10 Aug 1868, in McArthur, Vinton Co., OH
8. Clayton Alexander Sollers, 18 Sep 1873, Locust Grove, Adams Co., OH
9. Adda Martha Sollers, 4 Aug 1875, Locust Grove, Adams Co., OH
A. B. Sollers, being a circuit rider for the Methodist Church, certainly
got
him around the country in a far ranging path! I did not have the
marriage
date of A. B. and Mary Jane Hamilton Sollers, but it was in about 1856 in
Adams Co., OH. Do you have records for Adams Co., OH within your
reach???
Jumping around here:
Isaac died intestate, Nov. 8, 1830, his nephew, John Sollars,
was
appointed administrator of his estate. Samuel Sollars, Isaac's
brother, and
their cousin, Joseph Blackmore, were surities of $1400. Benjamin
Rodgers,
William Campbell, and Alexander Smith were appraisers. This was duly
recorded in the Washington Court House, court house in Fayette Co., OH where
Samuel Sollars and son, John, Reside. Samuel traveled to Moscow,
Clermont
Co., OH to get the children of his deceased brother. On Nov. 11, 1830,
Alexander and Martha Sollars, minors over 12 and 14 years of age,
respectively, chose their Uncle Samuel Sollars as their legal guardian. The
court likewise appointed him guardian of Lucy, Julia, and Ruth Sollars.
In behalf of his Uncle Isaac's estate, John made a number of trips in the
settlement of said estate. One such trip was made to Natches, Mississippi
"where goods, etc., had been left." He received $56.50 for
said goods, Etc.
The trip took 69 days at a cost of $69.00 (1 dollar per day). He made
three
trips to Moscow, Ohio and two to Mount Pleasant.
It is thought that Isaac's children may have returned south, perhaps to
their mother's relatives.
That is about it for this time. Thanks for the Capt Isaiah Sellers
material. I had it some correct, except he died downstream, not
upstream,
and it was St. Louis, not New Orleans! I enjoyed reading about him
again.
Enough "firsts" to his credit, that I am amazed that a movie was
never made
about him, or at least a book of his life. He was certainly an
achiever,
and never lost the respect of the people who knew him. His life and
acquaintances such as Samuel Clemons, who was also an admirer,
broadens the
quality of his surroundings to make such a book or movie a quality feature,
even if made for TV.
I'm looking forward to more input. Thanks too for the Claremont Co., OH
1830
Census. That was helpful.
Best regards,
Bob
Sollars
Robert C. Sollars
4715 Center Way
Eugene, OR 97405
1-541-343-2071
Email: sollars@concentric.net
Web Page: < http://www.sollars.org >
You are correct, the MyFamily.com family files are by invitation
only. It
has its good points and it has its bad points having this policy.
ROBERT, Thanks. I can NOT follow this family and we don't seem to have
enough
LA info available and evidently we quit posting info to ADAMS CO, OH after
1830/40.
So Sorry, can't contribute/share right now, but, we will continue saving
info to same.
Maybe, more now that we have this info.
I couldn't find the 1870 A. SELLERS, PAGE 675 IN NEW ORLEANS (just
ancestry.com
census-didn't have actual record)
and the 1860 A.B.SOLLERS page 995 ORLEANS, LA is not him = female
and I didn't Find ANY of these KIDS of ISAAC SELLERS dec'd 1830 in 1850?
did
you?
I did NOT check for a CIVIL WAR file on ALEXANDER BUCHANNAN SELLERS = should
do.
MY after 1850 OH marriages does NOT show ADAMS CO, OH?
DOES ANYONE HAVE?
1880 ADAMS CO, OH = any ideas? I may have a 1900 soundex to check
1880 ADAMS CO, OH
Census Place: Franklin, Adams, Ohio
Source: FHL Film 1254989 National Archives Film
T9-0989 Page 23C
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
A. B. SOLLERS Self M M W 50 LA
Occ: Minister Fa: --- Mo: ---
Mary J. SOLLERS Wife F M W 47 OH
Occ: Keeping House Fa: OH Mo: OH
Mary B. SOLLERS Dau F S W 19 OH
Occ: House Keeping Fa: LON Mo: OH
Lavina G. SOLLERS Dau F S W 17 OH
Occ: House Keeping Fa: LON Mo: OH
Robert L. SOLLERS Son M S W 15 OH
Occ: Farmer Fa: LON Mo: OH
Elizabeth A. SOLLERS Dau F S W 13 OH
Occ: House Keeping Fa: LON Mo: OH
Luella SOLLERS Dau F S W 11 OH
Occ: At Home Fa: LON Mo: OH
Clayton A. SOLLERS Son M S W 6 OH
Occ: At Home Fa: LON Mo: OH
Adda M. SOLLERS Dau F S W 4 OH
Occ: At Home Fa: LON Mo: OH
OKAY, I was going to check 1880 for the Older kids you listed for
A.B.SOLLERS!
didn't see!
I may have an index for 1900 ?
WHERE did kids go?
Robert, I am exhausted. Send whatever Links we can use on our county pages
to towns or counties they went to , so we can TRY and connect families.
Thanks for understanding and sharing,
marie, iowa
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Date:
Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:37:01 -0500
From:
HERMON B FAGLEY
<hermfagley@juno.com>
Sure,I'm "into" early Methodism. But ,Marie,as
with the
young Abe
Lincoln in mid,Ill
mid-western farm boys made at least 1 flatboat float of s
Ohio,or N.Ky
farm produce
downriver to Natchez and New Oreleans. Trip or two,and if
they didn't
drown,or die of yellow fever,or get robbed on the Natchez
Trace walking
back,they would have enough
money to buy a little place and marry .
'cYLOPEDIA OF Methodism'"s right here on the desk. Circut
riders got
around. The Learner Blackman, [REV AT NATCHEZ 1806-08] was
my many great
uncle,from near
Atlantic City,NJ shore,and he was living in Nashville,Tn in
1815,when he
drown in
the Ohio at Cincinnati,1815. Miles Harper [REV at Natchez]
became a
namesake here,and preached at Lexington,Kya
Henry D SELLERS,M.D, b 1790 Hillsborough,Md.1820 medical
lectures in
Baltimore
1825 to Pittsburg as a Dr
Local minister of the Liuberty St Methodist there
Trustee of Western U of Pa
pictured in bio. handsome
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