Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:49:40 -0700
From:
"Myrtle
& John Feldenzer" <myrtle@libby.org>
The web-site address listed below is for CD's on some town
parish records in Germany that your researchers might be
interested in. I found a CD on my German towns (Nussbaum,
Monzingen and Sobernheim) in the Rheinland Pfalz area. The
CD's have many towns listed on each one.
http://www.rolf-freytag.de/ there
are also town books (
I found one on Nussbaum, and now can carry it with me for
research at the FHC). Info is the same as the records on
the CD's but only for each town.....less money) on the site
for sale.
John
http://www.freetranslation.com/
While looking for German Consulate on line I discovered this link. Maybe it will help someone.
http://www.germany-info.org/newcontent/gc/consub_miami.html
Have to have Acrobat Reader and must click on German Genealogy.
Don
PAULA'S PAGE - Hamburg
EMILY'S PAGE - Hesse-Nassau
HANS GEORGE SELLERS PAGE Weinheim
PHILIP SELLERS 1724 PAGE Weinheim
RICHARD'S PAGE - Geringswalde - Dessau - Berlin - Chemnitz
JOHANNES ZELLERS 1735/1804 = Weinheim, Germany--Rockingham Co.,VA
WEINHEIM, GERMANY = need a separate page and INFO
Christening: Katholisch, Dewangen, Jagstkreis, Wuerttemberg
BAVARIA =
John Leonard Zeller born Bavaria and son Michael Zeller born ca
1834 BAVARIA - to Pa and settled in BEDFORD CO, PA
Sellers wrote:
> Marie,
> In response to a message posted last week about Mannheim, Germany
please
note that I am currently in Heidelberg which is only 13 miles from
Mannheim. If the party has definitive information on his/her line
please
post it to the digest and I'll try and go to Mannheim to look up
information for them. Also note that there is only one (1) SELLER
listed in
the Heidelberg phone book.
>
> Don
Donald Sellers wrote:
> Marie,I am departing for Heidelberg, Germany this Sunday for 30
days.
> I will not be traveling outside the Heidelberg Gebeit (area) so
> research will be localized. If anyone would like for me to look
up
> information in the Heidelberg area I'll gladly do so, time
> permitting.The only charge will be for copies and mailing. I'll
mail
> what I find when I return, which is cheaper than German Post.
> Additionally I'll be photographing (digitally) historic sites,
such
> as; Heidelberg Castle, Neckar River, Schwetzingen Schloss, etc..
If
> anyone is interested please have them contact me at
> dsellers@digitalexp.com . Don Sellers
You can almost visit Germany from your armchair.
Don
Susan, where was this naturalization found? What State &
County?
I have copies of Petition for Michael Zeller who came to this county
in
1841 from Bavaria. This is from Bedford Co, PA & dated 1848.
This family has kept the name of ZELLER.
Virginia "Gin" PYNE FAIR in Topeka, KS
GinsGeno@aol.com
KYBabe@aol.com
I have a Jacob Zeller 24 Sept 1635 ( married
Maria Roemerin) and a Jacob
Zeller circa 1700 (Jagstkreis Elwangen, St. Vitus (Germany)(married
Ursulla Sorgin). This is my line. (Everyone probably knows
that the "in" tacked
to the name means the female. Sorry if I'm being presumptive).
Addendum: Jacob, Conrad and Johannes Zeller arrived port of
Philadelphia
(?), Oct. 17, 1749 on the Ship Fane.
KYBabe
Fri, 01 May 98 08:46:25 PDT
From:
"Don Sellers" <dsellers@digitalexp.com>
Marie,
Having spent 19 years in Germany I thought that it was
interesting that the current conversation seems to be
centered around that country. Palatinate, Weurtenburg,
and Rittenheim are probably states rather than cities.
Some of them , or all, may still exist, however: numerous
states have lost their identiy for various reasons.
I still maintain contact with numerous German and Americn
friends and family and will gladly try and assist anyone. Most
importantly though I will need accurate information. Almost
all of the records still exist, except for the northeastern states
that were destroyed by the Russians during and after WWII.
Don
From:
HJZM01A@prodigy.com ( SHERRY MAZZETTI)
Total list is films, plural, not film.
Think I can interpret
the German, if necessary.
Films for Dewangen
AUTHOR: Katholische Kirche Dewangen (AO.Aalen)
TITLE: Kirchenbuch, 1594-1916
CONTENTS: Parish register of baptisms, marriages, deaths,
confirmations and family registers.
Geburten, Heiraten, Tote 1668-1728 film -----0920706
Geburten, Heiraten, Tote 1729-1789 film -----0920707
Geburten
1774-1826
Konfirmationen
1775-1816
Geburten
1827-1870 film -----0920708
Heiraten
1790-1908 film -----0920709
Tote
1790-1850 film -----0920710
Familienregister
1777-1872 film -----0920711
Familienregister
1849-1916 film -----0920712
Geburten
1610-1668 film -----0923013
Heiraten
1595-1669
item 2.
Tote
1594-1669
Familienregister
1868-1900
Geburten
1814-1840, 1870-1892 film -----
0923014
Tote
1850-1900 film -----092315
Familienregister
1891
This is how all was listed for me.
Not sure whether all of
0923013 refers to item 2. In any case, the films of greatest
interest to start would be (possibly) 0920706 and (definitely)
0920707. The former covers the period just before the marriage
of
Jacob and Ursula (might have their parents) and the second should
cover their marriage, children, etc. Just hope they stayed
in
Dewangen after marriage. I recall the note that the passengers
were
from Rothenstein. Whether that indicated where they lived
or paid
for passage or embarked, I don't know. Should break out my
German
map but no time.
SHERRY
I expect you know this, but the "in" on the end of a name signifies female.
Frances
Contributed by:
susan.sterzer@abalcn.com
Just saw the following on the German Surnames List and pass it along
in
case anyone is interested in this family:
Francais Zeller was born in Germany in 1785. About the time his first
child was born he moved the family to Switzerland (1830). In 1845
he
brought his family to the United States. His first child was Sebastian
born in 1830.
William Zeller
zelle@dialnet.net
Dial 011-49-area code-phone number
i.e.: 011-49-6221-22222
Be sure to drop the 0 in the area code. If there is no zero then
use all
of the number.
Don
Sellers (06144) 43847
[65474 Bischofsheim b
Rüsselsheim]
Sellers Media (06122) 9559-11
Services
[65... Wiesbaden] (Del)
(06122) Fax 51090
Sellers Adam (02689) 5490
56271 Kleinmaischeid Iser-34
Sellers B.O. (06151) 318273
64295 Darmstadt Am Pelz 80
Sellers C. (06102) 5425
63263 Neu-Isenburg
Am Forsthaus Gravenbruch 48
Sellers Charles (0631) 49336
67655 Kaiserslautern
Kapellenweg 31
Sellers Claudia (09721) ISDN 498125
u. Jack 97464 Niederwerrn
Pestalozzi-18
(09721) ISDN 498127
Sellers David (06352) 2135
67292 Kirchheimbolanden
Haupt-41
Sellers David (06371) 943391
66879 Kottweiler-Schwanden
Auf der Steig 26A
Sellers Dorothy (06224) 15701
69226 Nußloch
Konrad-Adenauer-Ring 5
Sellers E. (07131) 162967
[740.. Heilbronn Neckar]
Sellers Eric u. Katrin (0261) 56713
[560.. Koblenz a Rhein]
Sellers Gisela (0611) 509577
65191 Wiesbaden Weimarer -5
Sellers H. u. G. (0261) 55812
[560.. Koblenz a Rhein]
Sellers Jason (06372) 994538
66882 Hütschenhausen
Triftweg 17
Sellers Kai und (07132) 990361
Hafner Tina 74172 Neckarsulm
(Ohm) Eberwin-1
Sellers Katharina (06336) 993223
66497 Contwig (Sta) Flur-25
Sellers Marion (0521) 109253
33619 Bielefeld Werther-428
Sellers Neil (089) 6149443
82024 Taufkirchen Hainbuchen-94
Sellers Reginald (06374) 3860
67686 Mackenbach
Reichswaldring 8
Sellers Roy (06351) 5210
67307 Göllheim Berggasse 10
Sellers Toni (040) 6907351
22305 Hamburg Hellbrook-43
Sellers Wayne (06371) 52648
66877 Ramstein-Miesenbach
(Rs) Am Stutzenwald 21
Sellers Tonträger (02406) 7636
Vertriebs GmbH
52134 Herzogenrath Gut Rode
Sellers Tonträger (02406) Fax 3823
Vertriebs GmbH
52134 Herzogenrath Gut Rode 95
I have this information on the German Zeller/Sellers line.
Jacob Zeller b. 1706 Dewangen, Jagskreis, Wurttemberg, Germany
Married 6 June 1730 Ursulla (Urschulla) Sorgin Jagstkreis Dewangen
Katholisch
Had 8 children 3 deceased.
Son Johannes Michael was Revolutionary War Veteran
Let me know if this helps
Frances
<< Has anyone traced the Sellers family through the German
roots? If so how
do we get info or go about investigating? I'd appreciated
any tips.
Where in Germany is the Sellers/Zellers surname most prolific?
>>
I have citizenship papers on our John Leonard Zeller. He says he
is from
Heiburg/Heiburgh, Bavaria, Germany. We can not located that
town/village.
Maybe Heidelburg ??? Came to Baltimore in 1841.
Gin in Topeka, Ks
Gin,
I don't believe that it woud be Heidelberg since it
is on the Neckar River about 13 Kilometers from
Mannheim. This places it about 150-200 kilometers
from Bavaria. Let me look at some of my German
maps and I'll try and find it for you.
Don
From:
"Don Sellers" <dsellers@digitalexp.com>
Gin,
I just checked all of the cities listed in Germany
and could not find a Heiburg. There is a possibility
that it could now be part of Austria or even Poland.
WW1 & WW11 did cause some boundary changes,
particularly in that region.
Don
"Don Sellers" <dsellers@digitalexp.com>
Several months ago there was a discussion about a town in Germany.
If
memory serves me correct the name of the town was Heilsberg. At
that time I
suggested that, maybe, the borders had been changed and the town
was now behind
other borders.
I have recently purchased a book, published in 1949 that lists all
of the
cities, states,and countries of the world. Below is what the book
says
about Heilsberg.
Heilsberg is the German name for a Polish city called Lidzbark Warminski.
This city is located in the North Central Olsztyn department in
North Poland,
25 miles North of Olsytyn (Allenstein) on the Lyna River, formerly
in East
Prussia, Germany, assigned to Poland by Potsdam Conference
in 1945.
Hopefully this will help the person who was trying to locate the
place
where her/his family migrated from.
Don
>DON, Thank You - What did you think of Gin's comment re:
>
>On my John Leonard Zeller citizenship papers it shows village/town
as
>>> Heigaugh, Bavaria, Germany>being the same as>do any of you think
this
>could have>>> been:
>>>
>>> Grossheubach, Bavaria, Germany=
>If you just take the last part as Heubach, it could sound
>like >>> Heigaugh. Gin
>=====
>I kinda thought it sounded good, but, I'm used to working on US
>spellings of lawyers, census takers, etc = Where this Does Happen
-
>Thanks, marie, iowa
>============
Marie,
Who am I to argue. She sent me copies of two naturalazation papers.
One
document was clearly written as Heiberg, Bavaria and the other as
Heibaugh. After
looking at all variables and understanding that the location was
in Bavaria,
since he had to disavow King Ludwig of Bavaria, the only conclusion
that could be
drawn was Heilsburg. I have, as a reference document, Webster's
Geographical
Dictionary that lists more than 40,000 geographical names world-wide.
This reference gave me the current name for the city of Heilsburg
which is now
in Poland.
Apparently she doesn't want to accept the fact that her Zellers may
now
be in Poland. If she would just realize that the towns she is looking
at now
are in the Neckar Gebeit or Rhineland Palintate and NOT in Bavaria
then she
might find her past. John Zeller arrived in the US on 14 June 1841
and at that time
Heilsburg was still in Germany. There was a boundary change in the
1840's
but Heilsburg wasn't assigned to Poland until 1945.
I went to your German page today and noticed that there is a Polish
National who has submitted inquiries.
Recommend that he may be able to tell us more than anyone else.
From his
email address he must work for the police in Poland.
This is the second time that this spelling has came up and the first
time
they thought that Heidelberg was correct city. Heidelberg definitely
isn't in
Bavaria nor was it ever ruled by Ludwig II.
Don
Gin Fair in Topeka, Ks
On ZELLER, I am also going by some information another ZELLER
researcher
has found. We think maybe the name was spelled ZOELLER & they
all came from
the same area. The ZOELLERS came from Eisenfeld which is just north
of Gr.
heub
(Großheubach). I am first going to write to the ZELLER family
still
living in
Großheubach. Then I try to find Catholic church records
for ZELLER in
Heilsburg (Neckar Gebeit or Rhineland Palintate). I found Heilsburg
(now
Lidzbark Warminski) on my AAA Poland Road Map. It is located way
east of
Danzig (Gdansk). Looks like it is almost straight north of Warsaw,
Poland.
It is hard to believe they "thought" this was part of Bavaria in
1841 &
showed it on his papers. It is located east of area that was Pomerania,
where
my Great Grandfather WEIT was born.
I just want to cover all bases & these ZELLERs ("if" they
answer my
letter) may give us additional information. Anyway, it's worth
a try. I just
want to make it clear that I don't have any problem with mine or
my husband's
ancestors coming from the area that is now Poland. Don,
I want to thank
you again for all your help. Will let you all know "if" I
have any
success....
Virginia "Gin" PYNE FAIR in Topeka, KS
GinsGeno@aol.com
From:
"Don Sellers" <dsellers@digitalexp.com>
To:
"marie sellers hollinger"
<mari@netins.net>, <Ginsgeno@aol.com>
Gin & Marie,
Since there is always the possibility that Heilsburg is incorrect
I have continued to review my on-hand supply of documents.
Here is 'one' more possibility. Hambach - Palatinate, Bavaria,
Germany, 15 Miles West of Speyer. In the SW portion lies the ruins of Hambach
Castle, scene of the Hanbacher Fest May 1832, a gathering of abt. 25,000
persons demanding a republic and national unity of Germany.
Zeller contacts (remember that the cities shown are in the same gebeit (district) as Hambach:
Zeller, Margitta
65232 Taunusstein
Markstr. 5
06128-6644
Zeller, Nathalie
96450 Coburg
Lauterburgstr. 17A
09561-62269
Remember to drop the first 0 when you dial i. e. 011-49-9561-62269
Happy Hunting
Don
<<< They came from a small village called Dorfprozelten
near Wurtzberg in
Bavaria. >>>
Anne,
I have found Dorfprozelten on my German Telephone CD.
I have written to a Zeller in Grossheubach but haven't received
an answer.
These two towns are about 15 to 20 km apart.
They are near & west of the town of Wertheim which is west of
Wurtzberg.
I wonder if LDS has filmed any of their church records. They may
have gone
to
church in Wertheim. Looks like the largest town around.
I show Zoller in Dorfprozelten but a lot of Zeller in Wurtzberg.
We just may find a connection here.....
Ginny Fair in Topeka, KS