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I am looking for information about Emma Sellers Rock b 1861 d 1915 m Amos Rock 1880

Based on info from 1880 Census Emma and Amos lived with what is believed to be her father John H Sellers and step mother Hannah Sellers. Her brother Elmer and Johns brother Milton also lived there.

I looked up info on Emma and Elmer. I find them in other census records living with Nelson and Sarah Sellers as their children. Same ages and everything.

Any insight into this family would be greatly appreciated

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april 2006

Hello all,

My name is Fonda Rock and I am looking for information on my 3rd generation
great grandmother Emma Sellers. She was b abt May 1861 to what the 1880 census
says is John H Sellers b abt Mar 1836 OH. She had a brother named Elmer b
IN. John H had a brother named Milton b IN. John H was married to a Hannah who
married a Briggs after John H death abt bet 1900-1907. I am having trouble
finding the correct path for Emma and Elmer. There are several Emmas and Elmers
listed living with different parents. On Jan 25, 1880 Emma married William
Amos Rock and they had abt 11 children one of which was my great grandfather
Herbert Rock. I am trying to connect my roots thru every marriage into the
Rock family of my direct line and Emma evaids me. My father tells me that her
middle name may have been Dehart because his brother was named after an Emma
Dehart Sellers.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you
Fonda

 

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FONDA, thanks.
We need some help.

EMMA SELLERS ca 1862 IN DEATH certificate or obit may show mothers name Or brothers/sisters
Her brother =
ELMER SELLERS ca 1864 IN DEATH or Obit may show mothers name.or brothers/sisters.

THIS is what you need to prove JOHN H. SELLERS born ca 1835 OH and his wife and kids.
YOU might be able to find a civil war file or cemetery record on him , But, proving the same John H. SELLERS ??
Unless Hannah drew pension on her new husband Fred Briggs? might show info on her first husband.
You would have to check and see if he in civil war and if so, order that pension file.

Have you checked the Marion Co., IN cemetery/death records?
USGENWEB, marion co, indiana should have a look up available.

We may be dealing with middle names here the parents called us and WE didn't use when we got older.
WHAT was Emma's middle name??

Last place I saw John Sellers =
1900 MARON CO, IN
J. H. SELLERS 64 OH, M 20 YRS, BOTH PARENTS OH, CENTER TWN (ck 1880 Tippe) ca1836)
HANNAH 39 IN, 5/4, BOTH PARENTS OH
FRANK C? 16
INEGRA M. 14M IN
BENJAMIN H. 12 IN
ALMA 5/12 IN

Hanna Sellers Fred Briggs 17 Jun 1907 Marion
Emma Sellers Amos Rock 25 Jan 1880 Tippecanoe
John H Sellars Hannah Rhoads 17 May 1880 Tippecanoe

Need TO CHECK BOTH COUNTIES for these families and perhaps another in 1870????

Share what info you can find from you family info.
marie, iowa

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1880 TIPPECANOE, IN

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
John H. SELLERS Self M Male W 45 OH Blacksmith --- ---
Hannah SELLERS Wife M Female W 20 IN Keeping House OH OH
Amos ROCK SonL M Male W 23 IN R.R. Brakeman IN IN
Emma M. ROCK Dau M Female W 19 IN Keeping House OH SC
Elmer SELLERS Son S Male W 17 IN Blacksmith App. OH SC
Milton T. SELLERS Brother S Male W 42 IN Blacksmith App. --- ---


Census Place La Fayette, Tippecanoe, Indiana
Family History Library Film 1254314
NA Film Number T9-0314
Page Number 281A
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Thank you Maria I sure will. I have been researching the Rock part for a
while now and just started on the Sellers part but I will definately keep all
info I find comeing thru this list. Thx so much, I have tried all rounds of
Internet research that I can but I think I am going to have to wait and do
actual library research once I get back to IN which we will be moving back at the
end of May from Florida. Again thx so much, you atleast got Hannah last name
and I didnt have that along with their marriage date as a jumping off point

Fonda

FamilyRoots4@aol.com

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I am working that angle as we speak. I know that Emma lived in the general
vacinity of Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co and raised her family there and most of

them stayed there. From what my father says her middle name is Dehart or that
name is connected with her somehow. I believe John H Sellers is her father but
finding out which one is what is causing me so much grief because there are

a few with the same initial and same year of birth with the same children
named Emma and Elmer. Thx for the input

 

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Hello folks,

To those of you that have been helping me find this connection thank you.

after all the help this is the info I have determined

Emma D (possibly Dehart) Sellers b May 1861 IN d 30 Apr 1915 Lafayette,
Tippecanoe Co, Indiana m William Amos Rock 25 Jan 1880 Tippecanoe Co IN. gave
birth to 11 children total with one stillborn. Fathers name is John H Sellers.
Father last name is found spelled many different ways including Seller,
Sellars, Sellers and Sellus. Mother is still not found. Ive traced back to the
1870 census and the woman listed there cannot be their real mother based on her
place of birth which is listed as IN and the fact that she lists Boarding on
the census. Mothers birthplace is listed as SC NC on many census records
between the 2 siblings Emma Dehart and Elmer Ellsworth.

Elmer Ellsworth Sellers b Aug 1863 IN d ? m Bertha Wall 10 Nov 1889
Tippecanoe Co, IN gave birth to 6 children total. I found Elmers last name spelled
differently just like fathers and found him listed in 1870 census as Ellsworth
Sellers which explains the Elmer E so I am listing Ellsworth as the middle
name. Elmer lists mothers birthplace to be NC SC PA and OH. Its possible that
these two children had different mothers but is highly unlikely based upon the
closeness of their birthdates. I do believe that the census path that I have
been following is consistant with the same Elmer because of the matching of
his wife's name and children's names.

If anyone out there might have these individuals listed with different info
then what I have please let me know
thank you
Fonda

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FONDA

Yes, check out ALL possibilities.

BUT, you will find parents, ages, birthplaces diff on many census. That is why Other Documents are needed.

I can't SEE your Boarding info on Mary or John Sellers wife in 1870. she is keeping house. Probably wife? Please send your info you are talking about.

This 1870 census also does NOT show John Sellers born OH either. But, I would Not discount it. I would try and Prove who it is and if that can be proven, then discount it. Not until.

EMMA probably has a death certificate and they may or not know her mother.

ELMER probably has a death certificate and may show same.

My 1870 census on Elmer = ELMER not Elsworth (Please send copy of yours!) and also my other census show Elmer, but, perhaps I don't have All posted?

John Sellus Indianapolis Ward 9 (2nd Enum), Marion, IN abt 1834 Indiana White Male,Plowmaker,
Mary Sellus Indianapolis Ward 9 (2nd Enum), Marion, IN abt 1835 Indiana White Female , Keeping House Elmer Sellus Indianapolis Ward 9 (2nd Enum), Marion, IN abt 1862 Indiana White Male
Ernea (Emma?msh) Sellus Indianapolis Ward 9 (2nd Enum), Marion, IN abt 1860 Indiana White Female
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Thanks for sharing and Please understand my questions.
MARY, mother of Emma and Elmer may have died ca 1862/3 and didn't have a chance to correct to birth place on census as John did? OR not same. Too many similarities = Plowmaker/Blacksmith trades, not to check out Closely.

There is a John Sellers/Mary Yanner? In JAN 1860 MARRIAGE in Harrison Co, IN I couldn't find them in 1860 census. I did find a John and Catherine which could be possible.

POST info and follow thro.
marie, iowa

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1870 Census
Name: John H Seller
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Age in 1870: 30
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1870: Indianapolis Ward 3, Marion, Indiana
Family and neighbors: View Results
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View Image
Post Office: Indianapolis
Ellsworth Seller Indianapolis Ward 3, Marion, IN abt 1863 Indiana White
Male
Emma Seller Indianapolis Ward 3, Marion, IN abt 1861 Indiana White Female

John H Seller Indianapolis Ward 3, Marion, IN abt 1840 Ohio White Male
Mary M Seller Indianapolis Ward 3, Marion, IN abt 1837 Indiana White
Female
or
Name: John Sellus
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Age in 1870: 36
Birthplace: Indiana
Home in 1870: Indianapolis Ward 9 (2nd Enum), Marion, Indiana
Family and neighbors:
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate:
Post Office: Indianapolis
Elmer Sellus Indianapolis Ward 9 (2nd Enum), Marion, IN abt 1862 Indiana
White Male
Ernea Sellus Indianapolis Ward 9 (2nd Enum), Marion, IN abt 1860 Indiana
White Female
John Sellus Indianapolis Ward 9 (2nd Enum), Marion, IN abt 1834 Indiana
White Male
Mary Sellus Indianapolis Ward 9 (2nd Enum), Marion, IN abt 1835 Indiana
White Female

1880 Census
Name: John H. Sellers
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: <1835>
Birthplace: Ohio
Occupation: Blacksmith
Relationship to head-of-household: Self
Home in 1880: La Fayette, Tippecanoe, Indiana
Marital status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Spouse's name: Hannah Sellers age 20
Father's birthplace: Ohio
Mother's birthplace: Ohio
Listed with wife Hannah, daughter Emma Sellers Rock, son in law Amos Rock
and son either Elwin or Elmer and brother Milton or William. John H. Sellers wife Hannah Sellers La Fayette, Tippecanoe, IN <1835> Ohio

Hannah Sellers husband John H. Sellers La Fayette, Tippecanoe, IN <1860>
Indiana
Emma M. Rock daughter John H. Sellers, Hannah Sellers La Fayette,
Tippecanoe, IN <1861> Indiana
Elmer Sellers son John H. Sellers, Hannah Sellers La Fayette, Tippecanoe, IN
<1863> Indiana
Milton Sellers brother John H Sellers, Hannah Sellers La Fayette,
Tippecanoe, IN <1838> Indiana

1900 Census
Name: J H Sellers
Home in 1900: Indianapolis, Marion, Indiana
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Birthplace: Ohio
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Occupation: Blacksmith
listed with
Hannah Sellers wife Sept 1860 <39>Married 20 years, 5 children 4 living,
self IN father OH mother OH
Frank B Sellers son Dec 1883 <16> Single self IN father OH mother IN Ezra M Sellers son Mar 1886 <14> Single self IN father OH mother IN Benj H Sellers son Sept 1887 <12> Single self IN father OH mother IN Alma Sellers daughter Dec 1899 <5/12> Single self IN father OH mother IN

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JIM'S LETTERS = CENSUS = WILL DATE

 

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Thank you so much Jim and everyone else. I will be moving back to Tippecanoe
Co, Indiana at the end of May and I can go to the Public library and see
what I can find. From what my dad tells me they have a great genealogy section.
This line has been my toughest yet. Any new info that I find I will post. Thx
again

Fonda

 

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Jennifer Foster and Fonda Rock are mother and daughter using the same
computer and we are both working on this together, but here is the info your
requested

Emma "Dehart" Sellers from what we believe to be her middle name born to
John H Sellers and possibly Mary Long. Emma was b May 1861 Indianapolis, Marion
Co, Indiana m William Amos Rock 25 Jan 1880 Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co,
Indiana son of Robert Rock and Rebecca Jane Tippin. She died 30 Apr 1915 Lafayette,
Tippecanoe Co, Indiana at the age of 53.

She and Amos had the following children
Robert either A or R Rock m Frances E Biglow (Fannie E Gushwa) Earl Escort Rock m Mary Phillips Frank Aaron Rock m Annie T Allwell Orville Howard Rock m Hattie Miller Ryder Charles Rock m <~~no marriage found yet Herbert A Rock m Ethel Edna Shockey <~~~our connection Mary M Rock m Paul Brant Infant Rock~stillborn Merrill M Rock m Mary Anderson Harry A Rock <~~~never married, reported MIA during war then later reported
KIA
Jessie M Rock m <~~~no marriage found yet

Amos and Emma lived in the general vacinity of Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co,
Indiana during their marriage. This marriage was each of thems only marriage.

Thats what we know other then whats already been shared about the census
records
thx
Fonda and Jennifer

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