ENGLAND = SELLERS

HAMPSHIRE, ENGLAND
From:
"Pat" <makjeerra@bigpond.com
Groom's. Check out the new pages by looking at the link on Baptisms,
Marriages & Burials page. URL is
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hampshirenames/

Email makjeerra@bigpond.com
WEB SITES:
For researchers of family history in Hampshire
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hampshirenames/
Part of my family history
http://www.communigate.co.uk/hants/galesofhampshire/index.phtml

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FreeBMD UPDATE. http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/ (FreeBMD is
transcribing the birth, marriage and death indexes of England
and Wales 1837-1900 and placing the searchable database on the
Web for free access.)

I have some experience researching in England and first and foremost you
should know that their equivalent to our National Archives is Kew Library.
They have fabulous records there though not much on line that will help this
far back I'm sorry to say.

As for ships records, I believe those are really hit and miss,but for
folks that were mandated to go there should be court records. The County
(shire) would be very helpful,infact I don't know how one would go about
searching without some knowledge of where they need to search.

A good place to begin learning about reasearch in England or anywhere else
in the world is www.worldgenweb.org

Good luck,
Pati
JPM6966@aol.com

If any of you are researching in England, here is an address for over one million wills online at:

http://www.documentsonline.pro.gov.uk/wills.asp

Saw this on another list and thought it interesting.

Jan Lund

genhelp@worldnet.att.net

============
From:
Ron <rdpaark@aol.com>

GC-Shire of Worcestershire, England Query Forum
URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/England/Worcestershire/1028

Surname: Sollers, Sollars

Looking for info on Sollers Family in Kempsey,UK around 1500

CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com
MARRIAGE REGISTERS OF ST.OSWALD'S, CHESTER.
[334] p.134 1626
John Sellers and Marie Ambrose, Dec., 26
======
Chester StOsw Marriages 1678-9
SAMNELL SELLERS of Littleton of Christleton parish
and MARY BENNETT of Wervin of St.Oswald's parish
Feb.24

Middlesex England Parish Records
http://www.enol.com/~infobase/gen/parish/
<A HREF="http://www.enol.com/~infobase/gen/parish/">Middlesex England
Parish Records..1563 ~1895</A>

From:
        Eddie Bennett <emb4@tutor.open.ac.uk>
     To:
        WMFHSwebmaster@dchilds.clara.net, SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com, mark@sprignall.freeserve.co.uk,
        cyndihow@oz.net

Dear Site Owner/Web Master,

I see that you have a link on your site to the Middlesex Marriages. Please
note that this link is now dead, since the host - enol.com - has
disappeared from cyberspace.

I am now hosting this index on my site. please change your link to:-

http://pages.britishlibrary.net/eddie.bennett/Mddx/covering_page.htm

Regards,

Eddie

ps/ SELLERS - there is a link on
http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellerfamily/england.htm

ps/ as you can see, I have only picked up on a few linking sites. If you
know of any other sites with a link to Middlesex Marriages, (I have
covered GENUKI) then please pass this information on.

BISHOPS CLEEVE 1851 CENSUS, Gloucestershire

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/CensusRecords/Winchcombe/bishopscleeve51.html

ancestor came from England, but do not know a certain locality?
I have just found a website of the Society of Genealogists in England that has some
very helpful "Leaflets". I found the ones entitled "Notes for Americans on
tracing their British Ancestry" and "Surnames" to be quite informative.
The site is at
http://www.sog.org.uk/leaflets.

England websites

http://www.britishislesgenweb.org/

http://freereg.rootsweb.com/

Web site for the
Public Records Office of the National Archives of England,
Wales and the United Kingdom.

http://www.GenealogyBulletin.com/HTML/cyndi.html

From:
David Sellers <Tekki@Hotbot.com>
http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/England/GreaterLondon?read=1663
Subject: London Ancestors

I have found a site that may be of some use to you if you can't get to
London:

http://members.tripod.co.uk/Thenandnow/index.html

JOY = SOLLARS from Shepscombe/Painswick area
Joy Ryan (nee SOLLARS) NSW Australia
Jeff & Joy Ryan <jrbeck@crt.net.au>

   From:
        Paul Honey <Paul@Honey38.freeserve.co.uk>
     County of Kent, England Query Forum

Surname: Sellers, Smith, Mardon, Mathews, Cucker, Baker, Butcher
-------------------------

Seeking any Honeys from Mereworth or East London

Link: The Honey Homepage
URL: <http://members.tripod.co.uk/PaulHoney/index.html>

if you know any
Sellers from Cornwall, advise them to contact the Murdoch House in Redruth,
Cornwall. It's a converted historical house to a museum and they have
lotsa
information there, at least on my family.:
M.S.Tangye@exeter.ac.uk

Thanks again - good hunting,

Mike
ekimnagrom@mindspring.com

We also recommend "Your English Ancestry" for more English research
resources:
http://shop.ancestry.com/ancestry/yourenan1.html

Or find additional resources in our International Center:
http://shop.ancestry.com/ancestry/inandet.html

JOHN SOLLERS, founder of Maryland family from Gloucester,ENGLAND,probably WORCESTERSHIRE =

There is a note in this margin that according to Boyd's Marriage Index for England and Wales a William Sellers married Eln Bulcock in 1737 at Downham, Lancashire, England. We are looking up more info on William.
LINDA and GAYLOR
apache@centuryinter.net

DERBYSHIRE, ENGLAND

PA/CHESTER CO

===========

From Terri Leinneweber [mterril@rcn.com]

A collection of old English county maps
county maps from the 18th Century - on CD

===============

From:
"Geoff Lowe" <Geoff_Lowe@hotmail.com>

The following subsidy for 1597 is part of an original document held by
the Public Record Office, London. The PRO reference is: E179/153/510.

The first figure after each name is the amount assessed - the second
figure is the amount of tax - pd=pound. s=shillings. d=pence.

Figures in brackets indicate that the amount is
illegible/missing. The figure given is what should be present

Witton
Blofield hundred

Land
Richard .....MAN?    20s - 4s
John GEDNE    (20s) - (4s)
Arnold PANNELL    20s - 4s
Edward SELLERS    20s - 4s

Goods
Walter EDEN 5pd - 13s 4d
Thomas GINNE? 5pd - 13s 4d

Geoffers
Charlbury, Oxfordshire

From:
Druid Princess <liz@empirenet.com>

LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LKS] 1851 STRAYS N-Si

Born in SCOTLAND enumerated in ENGLAND:

SELLERS GEORGE Westminster Berwick St, Middlesex
SELLERS CHRISTANA Westminster Berwick St, Middlesex
SELLERS ALEXANDER Westminster Berwick St, Middlesex

"Roger Bailey" <rogereb@fdn.co.uk>

Source: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: CHARLES AND CAROLINE BAILEY

Seeking information on CHARLES and CAROLINE BAILEY. They were last found at
SNIGGS END, STAUNTON nr Ledbury in Gloucestershire on the 1881 census.
Charles was born in the parish of NEWENT in Gloucestershire in 1834 the son
of Thomas and Mary Ann Bailey (who were tenant farmers at Yates farm,
Newent, Sollars Hope Court in Herefordshire, Okle Clifford farm at Newent,
Nass Court farm at Lydney Glos., Zoons Court farm at Hucclecote Glos. and
finally ending up at the Brick House farm near Kempley in Glos.)
Charles married Caroline ? probably in Ledbury around 1859, (Methodism
making tracing difficult) and was in Newent in 1861. From then on they were
moving up through Worcestershire in Dudley, Swinford and Birmingham and
would seem to have reached Staunton in about 1880.
Children:
Thomas in Ledbury 1860
William in Newent 1862
Julia Ann at Welland in 1864
Hannah at Dudley in 1867
Henrietta at Dudley in 1868
Kate at Swinford in 1871
Daniel at Birmingham in 1880

Several years ago three gentlemen called at the Brick House farm at Kempley
and told the farmer that there ancestor Thomas Bailey (also my gg
grandfather) had lived there and that they came from Malvern. I have tried
to trace these gents but with no success. Does this information "ring a
bell" with anyone? I Would like to contact any descendant of this family,
there's quite a lot I can tell them!.

Roger E. Bailey
Near Ross on Wye, Herefordshire

        From:
             James Sellars <j.sellars@usa.net>
    I found this in a little book entitled "Everybody's Book of Epitaph's"
compiled by W. H. Howe. I found it in a furniture store of all places. ow
is the reference to a Isaac and Ann Sellers of North Derbtshire, England.

Jim Sellars
-------------------
pp173-174
In Egam Churchyard, North Derbyshire, is the following, which seems to
embody
a superstious belief respecting the death of one member of the family in
seven
years from the date of the death of another member of the family. Of
course
the lines were placed on the tomb after the event, and the safety of the
property was thus duly ensured: -

Here lise ye bodie of
ANN SELLERS,
buried on January 13th, 1731.
Likewise here lise
ISAAC SELLERS
my husband on my right,
who was buried on that same day seven years,
1738.
In seven years there come a change,
Observe and here you'll see
On that same day come seven years
My husband's
laid by me.

Hi to All,
Would anyone have a Hannah ZELLERS born 1866 Wales Marry a George
MORRIS,
came to Cape Breton Island Nova Scotia, Canada in 1906?
Thanks
Eileen
bar.e@sk.sympatico.ca

From: JanGulick@aol.com
To: VicMacd@aol.com
Cc: rwiggi@mcmail.com, hwiginton@email.msn.com
Subject: Samuel Buttall

Your gedcom submitted to aol library shows Randall Buttall born in Wrexham,
Denbigshire, Wales whose daughter Martha married Dr.Thomas Wynne born 1627
died 1692 married 1685 to Martha and Martha and Samuel born in Wales.
Would you have any additional information on the Buttall family? Would like
to thank you in advance and express appreciation for sharing your gedcom.
sincerely,
JanGulick
=====
Marie this is from the Sellers lines. Vickie / VicMacD@aol.com
= VICKIE'S PAGE

SELLARS: Betty.
* c.1785
* Yorkshire, England
Norma BLACKBURN
blackburn@hunterlink.net.au

Ron Sellers=<rojulian@enodoc17.freeserve.co.uk

I'm researching my forebears in the UK mostly
Engineers or CardMakers in the textile industry.
My Grandfather was James Henry Sellers b 1870
d 1930. He married Clara Walker in Jan 1891.
His father was John Sellers (engineer and artist) married Sarah Hol(d)royd.
The Father of John Sellers was Thomas Sellers (card Maker)who married Mary Briggs in 1839.
Thomas's father was James Sellers (Card Maker)
I haven't got birth dates/marriage dates/ or Death dates except where shown

The area of Yorkshire principally concerned is Cleckheaton. The parishes of Wike(?Wyke?) and
Birstall also promise to eventually produce leads.

I wonder did any of their brothers/sisters emigrate to America ? I'd be delighted to find a link.

Ron

Email: euanpearsn@AOL.com

* Shaw 1783 WRY,ENG Bentley
* Rayner 1823 YKS,ENG Knottingley
* Sanderson 1690 YKS,ENG Church Fenton
* Sellers 1737 WRY,ENG Wyke, Scholes
* Overend 1737 WRY,ENG Scholes

CHANNEL-ISLANDS-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Strays 1881 Census
Vessel: "Warwick"
        Census Place:   Kingston-upon-Hull, York, England
        Source: FHL Film 1342155     PRO Ref RG11    Piece 4782    Folio 33
Page
        Marr    Age     Sex     Birthplace
Charles WARWICK U       26      M       Sunderland, Durham, England
        Occ:    Master
Henry HEUGHS    M       29      M       Jersey, Channel Islands
        Occ:    Mate
William SELLERS U       20      M       Sheffield, York, England
        Occ:    Third Hand
Alfred FRANKMAN U       22      M       Lynn, Norfolk, England
        Occ:    Deck Hand
William LUHEY   U       16      M       London, Middlesex, England
        Occ:    Cook

There are loads of ships listed - use one of the above names to get a fix
and have a look at the neighbours

Sue & Brian Nicholson of Lancashire
mailto:hurstead@bigfoot.com

YORKSHIRE/SHEFFIELD/ENGLAND
The Sheffield flood took place on Friday, March 11th 1864.
I have extracted the names from an account which appeared
in The Sheffield Mercury, on March 13th, 1864.

Friday March 11th was a very stormy and windy day.
The following people were involved before the Dale Dyke
reservoir gave way ......

Malin Bridge where more than 20 houses were lost in the space of a few
hundred yards and 102 lives were lost. The two bridges here also went
along with whole rows of cottages and grinding shops.

In a row of 12 cottages and two shops, the following were killed -
Joseph Crapper, his wife and child.
Mrs Etchell.
Joseph Goddard, wife and 2-3 children.
William Sellers and wife.
Henry Javesson, wife and son.
George Barrett, wife and child.
Ann Pearson.
Mr Price, wife and children, two servants and a lodger.
Ann Mount.
William Watson and family.
Thomas Spooner and family.
William Wolstenmore.
Mrs Caroline Sellers and Mr. Sellers.

From:
"Sandie Kneib" <skneib@tscnet.com>

Source: GLOUCESTER-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [GLS] Sollars/Baylis/Lander/Painter

In response to the rollcall:

   I am searching for info about Sam Sollars(born 1734?), who married Ann
PAINTER(born 1734) in 1761 and had children: Sarah, William, Ann, Samuel
and John Punter/Painter who went on to marry Elizabeth? and have a son:
    Joseph Sollars born abt 1797 Crangham or Painswick
married
    Charlotte Baylis born abt 1799
on April 6, 1820 in Gloucestershire.

They had 8 children:
    Hannah born abt 1821
    Joseph born July 1823
    Elizabeth born 1825
    Eliza born 1827
    Anne born 1831
    Emma born 1842
    Mary A. born 1850

I am particularly interested in Joseph, who married a Caroline LANDER

Last Family:

Dwelling: 9 River St

Census Place: Pendlebury, Lancashire, England

Source: FHL Film 1341943 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3949 Folio 95 Page 45

Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Jane NICHOLLS M 47 F Ardwick, Lancashire, England

Rel: Wife (Head)
Florence NICHOLLS U 21 F Pendleton, Lancashire,
England

Rel: Daur

Occ: Dressmaker
Cornelius NICHOLLS U 18 M Pendleton, Lancashire,
England

Rel: Son

Occ: Salesman (Und)
Harold D. NICHOLLS 2 M Salford, Lancashire,
England

Rel: Son
David SELLERS U 20 M Scotland

Rel: Lodger

Occ: Warehouseman
John SELLERS U 22 M Scotland

Rel: Lodger

Occ: Salesman (Und)

Drop me an e-mail if you require further look-up,s in the 1881 Census.

Regards: Trevor Lawton. Perth. W.A.

Link: Trevor Lawton's Genealogy Homepage
URL: <http://www.arach.net.au/users/hlawton/Trevor>

   From:
        EuanPearsn@aol.com
       WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [WRY] Re: HODGSON/BENTLEY/PEARSONS

Hi Evelyn,

I, too, am interested in the above families.

I'm descended directly from Pearsons of Scholes, parish of Birstall, and
Wyke, nr Bradford (and possibly Coley/Northowram)

I'm descended indirectly from Hodgsons of Scholes and Wyke with possible
connections to Bolton (Bradford)/ Horton/Fairweather Green and Idle.

And my Pearsons and Sellers intermarried with Bentleys in Scholes.

Any help? Where do we start?

Kind Regards,

Euan (Pearson)

RESEARCHING: PEARSON, BROOK, SELLERS, OVEREND, HODGSON, THORNTON, BATEMAN,
CLEGG, DRAKE, TAYLOR, SUGDEN, GIBSON, WOOD: KNAPTON, JACKSON, RAYNER,
ATKINSON, POGMORE, CLARK, OLDRIDGE, SMITH

"Joscelyn Nickerson" <jsn60@hotmail.com>
> -- To: chickflet@aristotle.net
> -- Subject: RE: Re: Sellers in Maury County, Tennessee
> -- Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:09:10 PDT
>
>
> Georgia,Please understand that I do not have any knowledge of where these
> people lived. They may be who you call Robert Sr. and his brothers James,
> and John, but they may not.
> What I have is an old family tree for which I can not vouch, but I tend
to
> think it is correct, except it leaves out all the females except my
> grandfather's two sisters.
>
> At the top it says"Robert Sellers and his three sons came to the United
> States in - from England" the date has been covered up. On the back it
says
> in 1680 from Yorkshire, England.
> On this tree it shows the three sons as A.Robert, B.James, and C.John. I
am
> a decendant of Robert. There are 4 generations listed for some of
Robert's
> children.
> 2 generations listed for James, and none listed for John.
> Sons listed for A.Robert:
> A1.John, A2.Isaac, A3.Jacob,and A4.James,(no Robert Jr.)
>    no descendants listed for A1.John.
>     A2.Isaac's descendants
>       A2a. John
>       A2b. Robert
>       A2c.Isaac
>
>       A2a.John's descendant
>          2a1.William
>
>       A2b.Robert's descendants
>         A2b1.Isaac
>            A2b1a. Robt.B.
>            A2b1b. William H.
>            A2b1c. Eugene V.
>         A2b2. Robert
>            A2b2a. Dick
>            A2b2b. Isaac
>            A2b2c. Stewart
>                A2b2c1. Wm.
>            A2b2d. Robt.
>
>       A2c. Isaac's son
>         A2c1. Harvey
>
>     A3.Jacob's descendants
>       A3a.Robert( only child listed for Jacob)
>         A3a1. Wm. Harvey
>         A3a2. Finis
>         A3a3. John (no descendants listed)
>
>         A3a1. Wm Harvey's descendant's
>            A3a1a. Lee
>            A3a1b. Henry
>            A3aic. Rosa
>            A3a1d. Lilly
>
>         A3a2. Finis's descendants
>            A3a2a. Hagey
>            A3a2b. Robert
>
> Descendant's listed for B. James
>     B1. Robt.
>      B1a Luke
>
>     B2. Young
>     B3. James
>     B4. John
>      B4a William
>     B5. Isaac
>      B5a Isaac
>     B6. Har--ey (In the fold of the paper, so it is to hard to read.)
>     B7. Alvis
>     B8. Jackson
>     B9. Alford
>     B10. Carrol
>       B10a. LaFayette
>       B10b. Robert
>       B10c. Wesley
>       B10d. Robert(I don't know why there are 2 son's of Carrol named
> Robert unless the first one died, so they used the name over.)
>       B10e. Jeff. Davis
>     B11. Lafayette
>     B12. Francis

From:
"Joscelyn Nickerson" <jsn60@hotmail.com>

Georgia,
I agree with you. I don't think they came in 1680 either. 1710 seems to me
to be the earliest time. I don't know where the date originated, since the
date on the document is covered. I have always heard Yorkshire as the place
of origin.

----Original Message Follows----
From: chickflet <chickflet@aristotle.net>
Reply-To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com
To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: RE: Re: James and Robert Sellers of NC
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:46:42 -0600 Central Daylight Time

Jim, Joscelyn Sellers Nickerson is the one that says our Sellers are from
Yorkshire England. She has an old family document that states this. I
have
always heard that they are from Scotland, perhaps through England.
Joscelyn
states that they came to America in 1680 but based on the ages I have for
the 3 sons it was later. One of the sons has children born from 1750
through 1790 so the sons weren't born until after 1700-1730.

Georgia

Georgia L. Fletcher
chickflet@aristotle.net

----- Original Message -----
-- From: "Jim Sellars" <jsellars@home.com>
-- To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com
-- Subject: Re: James and Robert Sellers of NC
-- Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:42:04 -0700

Gloria;

I am pleased to see your mention of Sellers/ Sellars from Yorkshire
England.
My Canadian/ English ancestors also emmigrated from Yorkshire, however much
later than your information gives for Robert and his sons. I would be very
pleased to exchange any specific information and documents to verify our
ancestory. It is not often I see any mention of English ancestory in the
Sellers discussion group, so I am anxious to see what you have.

Jim Sellars
Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada

GEORGIA and JOSCELYN - Thanks. Our SOLLARS are in MD from ENGLAND by 1668.
This
would be SABRET SOLLARS family and he went to NC'S before 1800 and on to TN
to MO. He had a granddad JAMES SELLERS. ROBERT SELLERS name is quite common here.
Also PENELOPE sister. I am Sure MORE of these SELLERS/SOLLARS went south
and west.
Some info in each of the MD counties = may help=
http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellerfamily/md.htm

SOMEONE has probably studied these SELLERS/SOLLARS in ENGLAND, but, we
don't have enough info from there to follow- Need.

CAN THIS CHART be scanned or send a picture of same? WHO/WHEN was it made?
IF you use a 20 yr generation gap as an estimate, does it equal our SELLERS
ages in NC.

marie, iowa

From:
Russ Sellers <russ@lighthouseelectrical.com>

Source: OXFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com

Jim & Judy,
I have that name from around the Chinnor area, but with only limited info
at this stage which I've listed below.
Cheers Russ.
George MUNDAY, 9G Grandfather
(bp. 6 Apr 1595 - br. 31 May 1672)
bp. 6 Apr 1595
bpp. Chinnor Oxforshire UK1
br. 31 May 1672
brp. Chinnor Oxforshire UK1
& Susanna GOODCHILD, 9G Grandmother
(bp. 14 Jun 1601 - br. 16 Nov 1647)
bp. 14 Jun 1601
bpp. Chinnor Oxforshire UK1
br. 16 Nov 1647
brp. Chinnor Oxforshire UK1
m. 14 Jan 1624
mp. Chinnor Oxforshire UK1
|       Sybilla MONDAY, 8G Grandmother
|         (abt 1630 - br. 11 Apr 1711)
|         b. abt 1630
|         br. 11 Apr 1711, age: 81
|         brp. Chinnor Oxforshire UK1
|       & William KEENE, 8G Grandfather
|         (bp. 18 Jan 1628 - br. 31 May 1701)
|         bp. 18 Jan 1628
|         bpp. Chinnor Oxforshire UK1
|         br. 31 May 1701
|         brp. Chinnor Oxforshire UK1

Russ Sellers
Looking for;
SELLERS (Bavaria):
STRATFORD, BRITNELL, BROOKES, BUNCE, CHITCH,CHOWNE, COX, DEANE, ETHROP,
FRANKLIN, GOODCHILD, KEENE, MESSENGER, MUNDAY, TOOVEY, VENABLES, Oxs UK
GORTON, TELLING, Berks UK
HOWARD, DUMBLETON, VANN, N/Hants, Warrick, UK
TOOZE, Sommerset UK
BURBERRY, FELLOWS, Coventry UK
BOULDEN, CAREY, HARRY, JANE, RICHARDS, STEPHENS, TONKIN, TROUSON, WILLEY,
Cornwall UK
All from the Sunny Gold Coast, OZ

   From:
        Alice <alice7@sympatico.ca>
      GC-County of Cheshire,England

Surname: SELLERS, SELLARS, COTTER, COTTAR
-------------------------

Looking for information regarding my g-grandparents.
William Sellers born November 1839 in Ashton-Under-Lyne, Cheshire. And
my g-grandmother Alice Cotter, date and place of birth unknown.

   From:
        Ian Stoyle <Thorverton@compuserve.com>
     DEVON-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Convicts to be transported

For anybody interested in transportation in general or the people below in
particular:

"On Monday, Maria White and Elizabeth Rankin, under sentence of
transportation of 7 years, were removed from the Devon County Gaol, in
order to being placed on board the "Mary" at Woolwich. And on Wednesday
William Bright, transported 7 years, and James Bartlett, 24; Thomas Brown,
24; Richard Joy, 21; Joseph Rider, 38, Thomas Winsor, 19, and John
Richards, 20; severally transported for life, were removed from the same
prison, in order to being placed on board the "Justitia", at Woolwich."

This extract comes from the "Western Times" of 04 April 1834, following the
recent Devon Spring Assizes held at Exeter. Richard Joy had stolen a mare
at Tavistock, Thomas Brown £40 and a watch at Bideford, James Bartlett 14
guineas at Dodbrooke - when sentence was passed, he cried "God send me safe
over the water" - and Joseph Rider sheep at Dartington.

During the next couple of weeks there were further reports of Alexander
Croote, 41, and William Coombe, 25, under sentence of transportation for
life, being sent from the Gaol to the hulk "Justitia"; Josias Austin, 35,
and James Sellers, 29, transported for life, and Henry Osborn, a lad,
transported for 7 years, being sent to the "Ganymede" hulk at Woolwich;
and George Drake, 19, 14 years, and William Heard, 36, and John Davis, each
7 years, were also placed on board the "Justitia". Of these Croote, Coombe
and Austin had stolen two fat sheep at North Molton, and Sellers a purse
and bag containing 13 sovereigns at Colyton. No information on the others.

Ian Stoyle

robin sellers <sellerstr@austarnet.com.au>
Surname: Crouch, Sellars, Sellers
-------------------------
Warwickshire, England

Martha Crouch m. Joseph Sellars(ers)1880
Looking for information on both parties birth/death many thanks
regards Robin

"BIRTHS, MARRIAGES, AND DEATHS IN ENGLAND AND WALES SINCE 1837,
PART 1," by Sherry Irvine, CGRS, FSA (Scot)
===================================================================
In regard to births, marriages, and deaths in England and Wales since
1837, first let's get some background on the keeping of the
countries' vital records in general, beginning in 1837:

Queen Victoria acceded to the throne in 1837, the same year the civil
registration of vital events was introduced. She promised to be good;
the new agency, presumably, promised to be accurate. It had some
problems, but nevertheless, the fledgling General Register Office
accomplished astonishing results.

In the first 12 months of registration, more than 950,000 events were
recorded. Charles Babbage was still working on his second "difference
engine," the forerunner of today's computers (you can see it in the
Science Museum in London, at http://www.sciencemuseum.org), so there
was no mechanical assistance. Neither was there an administrative
system because the act establishing local government was 50 years in
the future. The only framework adopted was the poor law union, with
districts established under the Poor Law Reform Act of 1834.

District registrars and sub-registrars were appointed, and they
totaled more than 3,000. The local sub-registrars were paid on a
piece-by-piece basis. Not surprisingly, a few were caught padding the
books. [Careless research might insert a fictitious figure into your
family tree!] Despite the laborious nature of the work, the
difficulty of recording and reporting events to London in a timely
fashion, and the temptation each sub-registrar faced, the new system
was a success.

In fact, over the next hundred years, the General Register Office
made remarkably few changes. Here are three examples of the minute
changes it did make: (1) it changed from handwritten to printed
indexes, (2) registration became obligatory in 1875), and (3) a
mother, when reporting an illegitimate birth, could not name the
father; he had to be present and consent to his name being entered
(1875).

The most significant feature of civil registration was its impact on
marriage. From 1754 to 1837, there were three legally recognized
(religious) methods of marriage in England and Wales: Church of
England, Quaker, and Jewish. With the introduction of civil
registration, a couple could marry in a registry office or in any
church in the land. A Church of England minister could perform the
service on his own, but until 1897, all other forms of church
marriage required the presence of a civil registrar. Couples could
also, for the first time, marry in a civil ceremony before a
registrar.

THE DOCUMENTS

Each of the three available types of vital records certificates
contains information to lead you elsewhere, but only two of them
(birth and marriage certificates) include parental details. All of
them--across the top--indicate a registration district and either the
subdistrict or the location of the marriage.

Birth certificates from this period, which were organized in columns
from left to right, give the following: birth date (and time, in the
case of twins); birthplace (street address, farm, village); name and
gender of child; forename and surname of the father (blank for many
illegitimate children); forename, surname, and maiden name of the
mother; the occupation of the father; the signature; a description
and address of the informant; the date of registration; and the
signature of the registrar.

Marriage certificates, which were also organized in columns,
give the following information: the date of the event; names of the
bride and groom; ages of the bride and groom (the record may only
indicate "of full age," which usually meant over 21, but occasionally
signified "over the age permissible": 14 for girls and 16 for boys
until 1929); each spouse's "condition" (bachelor, spinster, widow,
etc.); each person's rank or profession; the bride and groom's
respective residences at the time of the marriage; fathers' names;
and fathers' ranks or professions. There is also an indication of the
form of the ceremony and the signatures (or marks) of the couple, two
witnesses, and the officiating minister or registrar.

Death certificates of the time, which were again organized in columns
from left to right, give the following: the date and place of death;
the forename and surname of the deceased; the deceased's gender, age,
and occupation; the cause of death; a signature; a description and
listing of the residence of the informant; the date of registration;
and the signature of the registrar. Burial could not take place
without the presentation of a death certificate.

The public does not have access to the original registers in which
births, marriages, and deaths were recorded, but if you would like to
read detailed information about the certificates and their contents,
visit http://www.genuki.org.uk. Once there, click on England, and in
the list of topics below the county names, click on "Civil
Registration." There are several useful sites there.

THE INDEXES

National indexes were created from the start of civil registration.
They were prepared in London from quarterly reports sent in by the
registrars throughout England and Wales. The indexes therefore follow
the quarterly arrangement; the first quarter volume is for January,
February, and March, and so on. There are separate sets for births,
marriages, and deaths.

At the Family Records Centre (http://www.pro.gov.uk/about/frc) in
London, you can consult the large index volumes, which are arranged
in sections and then in chronological order, for births, marriages,
and deaths. Film and fiche versions, found in libraries and Family
History Centers, mirror this arrangement. Just keep in mind that it
takes several fiche and often two or more films to list all the
entries for one quarter. In all indexes, male and female names are
listed together in alphabetical order according to surname and
forename; additionally, the name of the registration district, the
volume, and the page are given.

>From the first quarter of 1866 until 1969, death indexes included the
age of the deceased; in 1969, the birth date was substituted for the
age at death. In 1911, the birth indexes begin to include the maiden
name of the child's mother, and in 1912, marriage indexes added the
surname of the spouse. Names of both bride and groom are indexed.

These indexes are widely available. In North America, they can be
found in the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (for records up
to 1980), and many local Family History Centers have extensive
collections on microfilm or microfiche; be sure to check out the
collection at the nearest Center. On the Internet, RootsWeb.com has
many volunteers who are contributing to the "Free BMD" index (go to
http://www.rootsweb.com and click on "Free BMD"). This database's
growth, when measured as a percentage of all entries from 1837 to
1899, seems slow, but in sheer numbers, it is impressive. The size of
the index is now at almost 7 million--perhaps 6 percent of all 19th-
century entries.

NEXT TIME

Part 2 of this article will discuss obtaining vital records
certificates and will give tips, traps, and alternatives.
____________________________________________________________________

Sherry Irvine, CGRS, FSA (Scot) has been researching her British
ancestry for 30 years. She founded Interlink Bookshop and
Genealogical Services (http://www.interlinkbookshop.com) in 1988; she
currently lectures in Canada and the United States and is vice
president of the Association of Professional Genealogists. Sherry is
also the author of "Your Scottish Ancestry: A Guide for North
Americans" (http://shops.ancestry.com/product.asp?productid=1046) and
"Your English Ancestry: A Guide for North Americans"
(http://shops.ancestry.com/product.asp?productid=1045). You can e-
mail Sherry with suggestions for future British genealogy articles at
mailto:sherryirvine55@myfamily.com. She will not be able to send
personal replies, but will feature some questions in upcoming issues
of the "Ancestry Daily News." Sherry also regrets that she is unable
to assist with personal research.

From:
"Jack W Rumpel" <rumpeljk@qwest.net>

CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHS] SELLER/GODDARD

> Looking for information on the families of Thomas SELLERS and wife whose
> maiden name was GODDARD from a place called "Furnis Hill." They married 29
> December 1854. Thomas had family at both Dukinfield Hall, Cheshire,
> and areas around Huddersfield, Yorkshire.
>
> Thanks-

Jack W Rumpel
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
rumpeljk@qwest.net

From:
"Pauline" <paulineball@onetel.net.uk>
DORSET-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [DOR] East Morden, Wareham, War Memorial
Inscription.BEACHCROFT/SELLERS/SHORT/SAUNDERS/DAVIS/ROPER/BATTEN/BEDWELL/HUGHES/THOMPSON/BRIDLE/CROCKER

I was enumerating in East Morden, near Wareham today and like a good family
historian took this from the war memorial. My family think I am so sad. ;-))
Isn't there a site where I can send this information???

In proud and grateful memory of the men of this parish who gave their lives for King
and Country 1914-18

Lt. Cyril Shakespear BEACHCROFT
Sergt. John SELLERS
Privates Sydney SHORT
                 William SAUNDERS
                 James DAVIS
                 Ernest ROPER
                 Herbert BATTEN
                 Frederick BEDWELL

In proud and grateful memory of the men of this parish who gave their lives for King
and Country 1939-45

Captain Guy d'Oyly HUGHES DSO DSC RN
Captain Robert THOMPSON,
Private Charles BRIDLE
Private Calvin CROCKER

Hope this might help someone.

Pauline,

Author: Fern Sellers Garrison

Date: 30 Jul 2000 9:36 PM GMT

In Reply to: Early Sellers Family Members in NC by: Robert G. Sellers

While researching Sellers family in my local library I ran across this information; on 10/19/1739
Thomas Sellers came to VA.in bondage,3people in party, from Sussex. Name of tne ship was The Duke
of Comberland. From a book,"Immigrants in Bondage".
=====

FERN, Thank You for sharing ANY SELLERS etc INFO.

I don't think we/I have this ship/connection.
PERHAPS, we can follow up on this documented lead.
DID it say Where Ship Landed? , etc = something we can trace /follow up
on these counties, etc?
THANKS, marie, iowa

Date:
Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:03:24 -0700
From:
"ivan Dominikovich" <ivand@orcon.net.nz>

=====================================================================
Source: NEW-ZEALAND-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [NZ] WOODERSON Research

This is the Passanger List for the 3rd voyage of the BOMBAY
which left London on 26 November 1864 and arrived in Auckland on 18
March 1865.
The Captain for the voyage was captain Sellers

       Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:16:14 -0600
From:
       "L. R. Mills" <lancelot@ap.net>
      ENG-LINCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LIN] HUTCHINSON, WALHAM & SELLERS in 1891

Hi, Missing Lincs,

I found these fellas serving in the Army in 1891 in Folkestone.
These are from LDS fiche 6095856, RG 12/746, Kent, Hougham
(near Folkestone), Enum. Dist. 13:

At folio 122, pg 39 near Drop Redoubt:
SELLERS, Charles, single, 27, cavalry corporal, born: LIN, Lincoln

Hope one of these makes a connection for someone on list.

Lou

L. R. Mills, ENG-LINCSGEN List Administrator

jan 2005

My name is John Kelland, living in Torquay, South Devon, England. From a

little lurking I did a few weeks ago I think this list is mostly operating

in the USA?

My interest in Sellers is through my mother, a Dorothy Sellers from Glossop

in Derbyshire, England. I have her line back to 1740 in Padiham,

Lancashire.

If this is of interest to any of you, please contact me, you'll be welcome.

John.
john@kellandz.fsnet.co.uk

Hello John,

I'm interested in UK Sellers (Sellars etc). My interest is Sellers in the

Blythe Bridge/Dilhorne area of Staffordshire, particularly looking for the

parents and family of Elizabeth Sellers/Sellars chr 1799 in Dilhorne - I have

no idea how long these Sellers were in that area, I suspect they were in the

Potteries for a couple of generations beforehand but no proof. I know it's

not Lancashire, just posting to let you know there are others here who have an

interest in English Sellers. I will keep your msg and let you know if I ever

get a hint of a connection. Good luck in your search,

Sue
sue@baucum.org

===========

Hello Irene,

Thank you for replying to my message board post. I hope that you don't mind my

replying directly to you. I am delighted to hear from you, and hope we may

compare notes.

> There are several Sellers families in and around the

> villages of Draycott in the Moors;Caverswall;and

> Dilhorne Staffordshire.

These are all the right areas for my Elizabeth. I'm really struggling to put

the families together though. Elizabeth was my gr-gr-gr-grandmother and I

really would like to place her in a family and identify her parents. My

Elizabeth seems from census records, christened abt 1799. Her age is

consistent in the census records where I have found her. The BVRI has an

Elizabeth chr Dec 1798 in Longton, dau of William Sellers and Elizabeth, but

my Elizabeth is consistent in the census records that her birthplace was

Blythe Marsh or Blythe Bridge. According to the BVRI she is the only child of

this William and Elizabeth Sellers. Maybe she was born in Blythe Bridge/Marsh

and christened in Longton but that doesn't quite sound right unless her family

had moved for work. Maybe she moved back to Blythe Marsh when she married Job

Dunn but there's nothing to back up that theory.

> My Hannah Robinson born about 1820 has parents

> Stephen Robinson and Sarah Sellers.they lived in Draycott.

> Elizabeth could well be Hannah's sister; there is one

> Elizabeth born 1815 to this family. I have Vital records

> edition 2. get in touch if this is helpful Irene

My Elizabeth Sellers is definitely consistent in her age in the census

records. That might make her an aunt or sister to the Sarah Sellers who m.

Stephen Robinson - according to BVRI 2nd ed Sarah Sellers married Stephen

Robinson on 10 Oct 1809. Do you know anything of Sarah's parents?

I have recently set about going through 1841 and 1851 looking for other

Sellers and found a Sampson Sellers b. abt 1770 according to the census

entries, living in Newcastle-under-Lyme. I think he may be the Sampson

Sellers who m. Margaret Umpton on 25 Aug 1794 in Dilhorne according to the

BVRI. In 1841 and 1851 he is widowed. and living with son James Sellers and

Jame's wife Ann. James was born 1799 according to the BVRI, so unless he was

a twin then Elizabeth is probably not the dau of Sampson (we have a lot of

twins in our family though, and so I never quite discard the possibility). In

case it is of any help to you and you don't already have it, I've included the

Sampson and James Sellers info that I found in the report below.

I apologise for this very brief email - I have been away working and this is

the first chance that I have had to get back to you and I didn't want you to

think that I wasn't interested in your reply - quite the opposite. Does

anything above ring any bells with you? I will send you the details of the

census records where I have found Elizabeth and a tree for her showing what I

know of her descendants - maybe they will interconnect with your own surnames.

Thanks again for your reply, I will be in touch with more info when I get my

breath back :)

Best wishes,

Sue Platt Baucum

ex-Staffs, exiled in Texas

-- Sampson Sellers report --

Modified Register for Sampson SELLERS

First Generation

1. Sampson SELLERS was born(1) about 1770 in Caverswall, Staffs, England. He

died(2) in Oct 1855 in Newcastle, Staffs, England. Sampson resided(3) in 1841

in Penkull St, Newcastle, Staffs, England. He was employed(4) as Independent

in 1841. He was employed(5) as Gentleman in 1851. He resided(6) in 1851 in 81

High St, Newcastle, Staffs, England. He had the following children:

2 M i. James SELLERS was born(7) about 1800 in Hanley, Staffs, England. He

died ?.

James resided(8) in 1841 in Penkull St, Newcastle, Staffs, England. He was

employed(9) as Shoe-maker in 1841. He resided(10) in 1851 in 81 High St,

Newcastle, Staffs, England. He was employed(11) as Shoe-maker in 1851.

James married Ann daughter of Unk BROOKS and Margaret. Ann was born(12) about

1804 in L'ton. Cheshire, England. She died(13) in Oct 1867 in Newcastle,

Staffs, England.

Ann resided(14) in 1841 in Penkull St, Newcastle, Staffs, England. She

resided(15) in 1851 in 81 High St, Newcastle, Staffs, England.

Appendix A - Sources

1. 1851-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-Newcastle-Piece 2001-Page 67-SELLERS James .

2. Staffordshire BMD death 1851: SELLARS Sampsom , Staffordshire BMD online,

http://www.bmsgh.org/staffsbmd/index.html, or

http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk. "Sellars Sampsom Newcastle L 6b 31.".

3. 1841-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-HO 107/1009-ED 2 (West)-Page 27-SELLERS James

4. 1841-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-HO 107/1009-ED 2 (West)-Page 27-SELLERS James

5. 1851-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-Newcastle-Piece 2001-Page 67-SELLERS James .

6. 1851-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-Newcastle-Piece 2001-Page 67-SELLERS James .

7. 1851-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-Newcastle-Piece 2001-Page 67-SELLERS James .

8. 1841-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-HO 107/1009-ED 2 (West)-Page 27-SELLERS James

9. 1841-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-HO 107/1009-ED 2 (West)-Page 27-SELLERS James

10. 1851-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-Newcastle-Piece 2001-Page 67-SELLERS James .

11. 1851-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-Newcastle-Piece 2001-Page 67-SELLERS James .

12. 1851-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-Newcastle-Piece 2001-Page 67-SELLERS James .

13. Staffordshire BMD 1867: SELLERS Ann , Staffordshire BMD online,

http://www.bmsgh.org/staffsbmd/index.html, or

http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk. "Sellers Ann 64 Newcastle L. 6b 36.".

14. 1841-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-HO 107/1009-ED 2 (West)-Page 27-SELLERS James

15. 1851-UK-Staffs-Newcastle-Newcastle-Piece 2001-Page 67-SELLERS James .

-- End of report

----- Original Message -----

From: <irene.reynolds@ntlworld.com>

To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:59 PM

Subject: [SELLERS] Re: Parents of Elizabeth Sellers chr 1799, Dilhorne,

Staffordshire, England, m. Job Dunn

> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.

> Classification: Query

> Message Board URL:

> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JWGBAEB/1204.1

> Message Board Post:

> There are several Sellers families in and around the villages of Draycott in

the Moors;Caverswall;and Dilhorne Staffordshire.

> My Hannah Robinson born about 1820 has parents Stephen Robinson and Sarah

Sellers.they lived in Draycott.

> Elizabeth could well be Hannah's sister; there is one Elizabeth born 1815 to

this family. I have Vital records edition 2. get in touch if this is helpful

Irene

=====

Source: Mariners-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Mar] Abington of Liverpool

Hello John,

ABINGTON O.N.145470
411 gross ton coastal cargo ship, length 145ft x beam 24.1ft, speed 9 knots.
Built 1921 by Browns Shipbuilding Co, Hull (Yard No.3) for Cheviot Coasters
Ltd (G. T. Gillie & Co), Newcastle. 1924 sold to Ribble Shipping Co (John S.
Sellers & Co), Newcastle. 1932 sold to Isle of Man Steam Packet Co, Douglas,
I.o.M. renamed CONISTER. 1965 scrapped at Dalmuir. [Starke / Schell
registers]

regards
Ted
Ted Finch [mariners-l@efinch90.fsnet.co.uk]

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Marshall" <marshall@pentredu.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <Mariners-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 2:53 PM
Subject: [Mar] Abington of Liverpool

> All I have from Lloyds Captains Register and the Mariners List is that
> she
> was Abington of Liverpool, Official Number 145470, and built 1921.
> I'd be very grateful to anyone who can flesh out some details for her.
>
> Regards,
> John

=====

ENG-MANCHESTER-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] 1871 census SELLERS & Granville Street Salford

Edwina Higgins wrote:

>Dear List
>
>I am posting this request again, in case anyone with access to the
>1871 census is reading the list today.
>
>I am looking for: Mary Sellers age 14 born Salford <snip>
>
Hi Edwina

Couldn't find any Mary SELLERS born in Salford. Found 9 with birthdates
of 1857 (+/- one year). This is the only one born in Lancashire:

Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship
Civil Parish or Township County/Island
Emma Sellers abt 1864 Whalley, Lancashire, England Daughter
Newchurch Lancashire
Henry Sellers abt 1831 Whalley, Lancashire, England Head
Newchurch Lancashire
Mary Sellers abt 1836 Halifax, Yorkshire, England Wife
Newchurch Lancashire
Mary E Sellers abt 1856 Whalley, Lancashire, England
Daughter Newchurch Lancashire
RG10/4134
Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Newchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Folio: 158
Page: 22

If you will give us her parents' names, I'll have another look for you.

Best wishes,
Lynne

lklein@mindspring.com

Govan Parish Churchyard, Glasgow

James POLLOCK died 19 Jul 1853
His wife Marion SELLERS died 24 Apr 1874 at Callander ages 90 His children: Jane PARK died 1 Jan 1832
James died 12 Mar 1837 at Falmouth, Jamaica
Isabella Weyess died 24 Dec 1837
Margaret Sellars died 3 Jun 1896
Margaret Stewart wife of JB ROSS died 3 Nov 1853

Hope it is of some use to someone

Regards
Alison Graham
Alison Graham [alijohn@vic.australis.com.au]

=====================

As a matter of interest, my folk, David KIRKPATRICK and Mary SILLERS, or SELLERS were married on 10th May 1818. I got a copy of the Marriage Licence in the hope of finding more information about them, the parents of David KIRKPATRICK, but there was only one other KIRKPATRICK with just an initial and no address. They also used a finger print as well as a very nicely written signature.

David KIRKPATRICK was described as a Master Mariner at the time of his marriage, but found in 1823 at 130 Park Lane, Liverpool, as a Surgeon. He died in 1837.

Janet

Janet [wightway@tiscali.co.uk]

=================

BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Whitehaven, England - near Liverpool?

I'm sorry to labour the point, but I do think its worth sharing the information we find to enlighten. I wondered if my man could have been a Master Mariner/Surgeon.

http://www.virgin.net/internetaccess/24seven/
Listed in Baines 1824 Directory of Liverpool :-

Rev Cleland KIRKPATRICK, Wesleyan Minister, 108 St James Street Kitty KIRKPATRICK, gentlewoman, 51 Seymour Street David KIRKPATRICK, surgeon, 130 Park Lane Thomas KIRKPATRICK, floorcloth manufacturer, 13 Queen Street

His daughter's marriage after his death:

Full marriage record listing - on 19 Feb 2006 at 19:41:49 GMT
Field Name Field Value
KEYCODEWKIRM01200540.10048
PADVERwkirM0540.1
PARISH_CODEWKIR
TAGGED0
DATED18580615
GROOM_FNAMEALEXANDER
GROOM_SNAMESHERRATT
GROOM_STATUSBA
GROOM_OCCUPATIONFARMER
GROOM_RESIDWEST HYDE HEREFORDSHIRE
GROOM_AGEFU
GROOM_SIGNS
BRIDE_FNAMEELIZABETH JOHNSON
BRIDE_SNAMEKIRKPATRICK
BRIDE_STATUSSP
BRIDE_RESIDCALD
BRIDE_AGEFU
BRIDE_SIGNS
W_FNAME_1ADAM
W_SNAME_1JOHNSON
W_FNAME_2CHARLES
W_SNAME_2BIRRS
W_FNAME_3ELIZABETH
W_SNAME_3BARTON
W_FNAME_4ISABELLA SELLERS
W_SNAME_4KIRKPATRICK
W_FNAME_5ELLEN
W_SNAME_5REALEY
W_FNAME_6THOS
W_SNAME_6REALEY
C_FNAMEJ
C_SNAMESLADE
G_F_FNAMEGEORGE
G_F_OCCUPATIONFARMER
B_F_FNAMEDAVID
B_F_OCCUPATIONSURGEON
ADDITIONAL_INFORMATION G OCKE PRITCHARD NEAR WEST HYDE

Full burial record listing - on 19 Feb 2006 at 19:43:20 GMT
Field Name Field Value
KEYCODEWKIRB01500907.10061
PADVERwkirB0907.1
PARISH_CODEWKIR
TAGGED0
DATED18370214
FORENAMEDAVID
SURNAMEKIRKPATRICK
SEXM
RESIDENCEWKIR
AGE5400

I dont accept the first record that throws itself at me, so could you perhaps suggest where else I might look. As I mentioned, I purchased his Marriage Licence for a fee.

Regards
Janet

----- Original Message -----
From: "judy olsen" <copywriter@tesco.net>

> Solvay is way too late for your man., whom I think you said died in
> 1837?
>
> I am sure you have dotted all the is and crossed the Ts but I find
> the change from Master Mariner to surgeon a bit worrying. If he had
> been a ship's surgeon then records would probably say that.
>
> Job changes from professional/apprenticed to non professional, such
> as shopkeeper or innkeeper are easier to accept. Job changes from
> unskilled to skilled are just about tenable but crossing from one
> profession to another seems the least likely.
>
>
> Judy

=============

Chris Anderson [chrisandsmail@yahoo.com.au]
INDIA-L@rootsweb.com
Marriage Banns Published St Mary’s Church Fort St
George Madras 1837-1944…1874-1872

John Alexander SELLERS Ordnance Artificer New Town
Mercy WARD spinster New Town
Banns Oct 1872

march 2006

Hi List!
These are my SELLERS.
Charles and Emma (nee WHITE). In 1881 census at Wyke, Axminster, Devon. Charles born Beer, Devon, c1848/1849. Family moved to Cardiff, Wales between 1882 and 1885.
Children: Bessie, John C., Gertrude, William Henry,
George, Thomas Alfred, Albert James, Percy Reginald.
Do these match anyone elses SELLERS family?

Lyn Freeman

Lyn Freeman [lyn.freeman@talk21.com]
==============

Source: ESSEX-UK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: 1841 CENSUS LOOKUP

I am hoping someone on this list wouldn't mind looking up these two families for me please, they were all born in Barking, John Milton b 1805 & wife Mary Elizabeth Milton nee Sellers

Joseph Milton b 1812
Louisa Milton nee Sellers b 1816

Many Thanks in Advance.
Doreen
Doreen [dfr@tsn.cc]
may 2006

==========

Park Lane, Liverpool was the address where David KIRKPATRICK "practised" in the years 1824 until his death in 1837. The husband of a second cousin of mine knows Liverpool well, having studied there, in the 50s, and he told me that at the time Park Lane was as "posh" as its namesake in London.
David Kirkpatrick and his wife Elizabeth SILLER or SELLERS were married in 1818 in the Church of St. Peter, in the Parish of Liverpool. I have a copy of the Licence to marry which he signed and impressed a fingerprint, as did a witness I.M. Kirkpatrick, who I cannot identify.
If anyone here has already helped me in this - thanks again - and please forgive me for repeating that I do no know why, for sure, they lived in Caldy and took their children to Liverpool to be baptised. I suspect a non conformist religion, or Presbyterian, Kirk of Scotland.

Janet
Janet [wightway@tiscali.co.uk]

====

june 2006

My purpose in joining this list is to pursue the other half of a Master Mariner.
Mary SILLERS or SELLERS b. 21 October 1796. d. 1864, a teacher in Liverpool when she died.

Her parents were John SILLERS/SELLERS and Mary JOHNSON, who married on 7 May 1788.

Mary Sillers or SELLERS married David KIRKPATRICK b 1783 d.1837. They married in Liverpool on 10th May 1818.

I've got more information than I have shared here. If we have any Cheshire or Liverpool members with a SILLERS or SELLERS interest I would be pleased to hear from you.

Janet
Janet [wightway@tiscali.co.uk]

=====

[DUR-NBL] Birtley Cemetery

My grandparents married in Gateshead, Durham then settled down in Birtley.
They had a son in 1895 another in 1896. Both died soon after birth and are
buried in a cemetery somewhere in Birtley. I understand Birtley was a very
small village in the 1890s so perhaps there was only one cemetery serving
the area. Is there a way to find the name of this cemetery and where it is
located? Their surname is Sellers/ars.
Alice in Canada
avws2601 [avws2601@sympatico.ca]
feb 2009

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Alice,
Birtley is in the parish of Chester-le Street.
You can find lots of information here: http://www.joinermarriageindex.com/pjoiner/genuki/DUR/ChesterleStreet/index.html#ChurchHistory
Birtley church records appear to be available from the Durham County
record office.
Peter
Peter McGuinness [pmcguinness@sbcglobal.net]

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