Hi, my name is Edward Bardin; I live in north west Fl. north of Pensacola.
I
started my family tree search approx.  a year ago and have accumulated
quite
a few names - but, with the Bardins I've hit a road block. Would appreciate
any help, Below is what little info I do have:
Andrew Bardin (8/6/1833 - 1/2/1899)     (my g-g-grandfather)
               married Mary Elizabeth Davis (1/11/1845 - ?)
                believed to full blooded Creek Indian & born
                in Flomaton, Al. (Escambia Co,Al, msh)

Andrew & Mary Elizabeth Bardin's children:
    James W.  (10/25/1841-?) *
            Joseph Marion (11/25/1856-?)
            Henry Clay (3/6/1861-11/6/1919) **          (my g-grandfather)
               married Mary Jane Sellers (3/20/1862- 6/25/1937)
            Martha Ellen (?-?)
            Christopher Columbus (9/21/1868-2/1/1898)
            Lee Andrew (1/22/1871-12/9/1896)
            Cenith Eumer (8/16/1874-?)
            George Rufus (2/19/1876-?)
            Jasper "Jess" Aldrens (8/28/1878-?)
            Fletcher "Fletch" (4/24/1883-?)
            Amanda Jane (10/28/? - ?)
* I know this birth date cannot be possible if he is H.C.Bardin's natural
son
- I received this info from relatives who are now deceased.
** H.C. Bardin was involved in a killing- left family moved to Ms ? , Tx ?
Or
La ? & changed name to Griffin or Griffith.

Henry C. & Mary Jane's children:
            Mary-Frances Josephine (11/1/1880-9/20/1926)
            Elizabeth "Essie" (4/28/1884-5/26/1923)
            Cyrus Alford (8/19/1886-7/22/1966)      (my grandfather)
               married Dovie Lee Stuckey (11/1/1897- 11/17/1977)
            Carlie Parrish (10/1/1888-?)
            Callie (5/4/1891-6/?/1978)
            Mallie  (5/4/1891- approx 1894  twin to Callie)
            Perlie (1/5/1894- 11/?/1973)

Cyrus A. & Mary Jane Bardin's children:
            Ruth Lee (5/10/1913-1/22/1983)
            John Aubrey (11/11/1914-4/16/1977)
            Henry Clay "Bill" (3/29/1917- 5/26/1961)
            Claude Alford (3/20/1920-12/2/1990)
            Grady Washington (3/5/1922-4/28/1985)
            Dewey Lee (11/27/1925-  )
            Trammel Oneal (8/15/1925- 4/28/1929)
            Marvin Emmett "Bo" (10/25/1929-  )      (my father)
               married Willie Mae Rutherford (3/2/1933-  )
            Pauline    (9/24/1931 - 8/25/1974)
            Aurthur Delano  (6/19/1934- 7/3/1993)
            Mary Ellen  (2/13/1939-  )

Marvin E. Willie Mae Bardin's children:
            Cathy Denise  (7/4/1955-  )
            Marvin Edward Bardin  (11/11/57-  )     (me)
            Joy Grace  (1/12/1964 -  )

The first two generation lived in the south Alabama region (Andalusia,
Evergreen).
Any help with genealogical information will be much appreciative.

EDWARD - Thanks - This is the SELLERS family discussion and we try and
share
families, etc
We show Mary Jane SELLERS  and Henry Clay BARDIN living with her parents in
1880
Monroe Co, Al =
1-29-1880 =Monroe Co, Al
MARY SELLERS married HENRY E. BARDEN
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------

1880 MONROE CO, AL soundex census =
 THOMAS L. SELLARS 47 AL-beat 12 (believe this is like township,msh)
 MILLIE ANN 40 AL WIFE
 FINELLY V.L. 20 AL, DAU
 EMMA A 18 AL DAU
 SIMEONE M.L. 11 AL, SON
 HENRY C. BARDIN 19 AL, SIL
 MARY J. 18 AL , DAU
 WM PETERSON 27 GA, SIL
 MARTHA A.P. 23 AL, DAU
 WM E. 4 AL, Relation Not Reported (listed as Peterson)
 THOMAS M. 6/12 AL, Relation Not Reported (listed as Peterson)
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I am sure Carol received our/your message as I did Not receive it back - I
am
sure she will contact us/you and share info.
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WHERE are they after 1880 = where kids born
AND where did they die?
DID his parents have any wills or C-W papers which may state info on kids -
Sure you have already done?
I believe All we have is on our Monroe Co, Al page =
http://www.netins.net/showcase/sellerfamily/almonroe.htm
Thanks , marie, iowa

Actually, Ed has already contacted me and shared his info which was
wonderful
because I hit a brick wall a year ago.  If he does not send his info, I
will
be happy to forward what I have.

Carol=
CAROL'S PAGE

This is same info I have Marie; I've got quite a bit of additional info
from
all 7 children of Dr. T.L.Sellers (he married Finetta Braxton 1st, had 4
daughters: Martha Ann Priscilla, Finetta Victoria, Dorcas Adeline & Mary
Jane; after 1st wife died he then married Millie Ann Andrews & had 3: Emma
Abagail, Simeon Moses & a baby girl that died @ birth). I have more info, I
just need to figure out the easiest way to get it to you- you see I use the
Biblical method of typing...........seek & ye shall find!
Do you belong to any of these lines? The two Petersons mentioned in the
census is Martha Ann's husband (William G.)& sons (William Edward & Thomas
Malcon). Do you have your info on any software? I'm using Generations
Family
Tree. If you have the same program I'm sure I could download it to
you....if
I can figure it out (I'm kinda new at this).
Let me know, Edward

First Generation
----------------------------------------

1. Simeon Sellers, GG Grandfather, 155, M. Born  app 1797 in N.Carolina.
Simeon died  ?  in buried in Red Level, Al. Occupation: farmer.
(Red Level, by GNIS = Chambers, Covington, Montgomery,Sumter Co's,msh)

"..the story goes that 5 or 7 Sellers bros. came to America from
Scotland. One of the youngest fell in love with a 16 yr girl on ship &
married after landing in N.C. They supposedly migrated down - N.C.,
Ga.,Al., Fl. As of 1850 census he was 58 yrs age."(I don't know who
"they" is)

 ?  Simeon married Martha ?Hewitt or Huett?, GG Grandmother, 154, F.
Born  app 1796 in N. Carolina.

They had the following children:
  i. Lydia, GG Aunt, 356, F. Born  app 1828 in North Carolina. Lydia
died  ? .

  ii. Benjamin E., GG Uncle, 357, M. Born  app 1829 in Alabama.
Occupation: farmer.

 2 iii. Thomas "Thecis" Leonard, 133, M (1832-1913)
  iv. Martha A., GG Aunt, 358, F. Born in 1836 in Alabama. Martha A.
died  ? .

  v. Sarah, GG Aunt, 359, F. Born in 1840 in Alabama. Sarah died  ? .

  vi. Simeon, GG Uncle, 360, M. Born in 1844 in Alabama.

Second Generation
----------------------------------------
Family of Simeon Sellers (1) & Martha ?Hewitt or Huett?
 

2. Dr. Thomas "Thecis" Leonard Sellers, G Grandfather, 133, M. Born on
19 Nov 1832 in probably Henry, Al. Thomas "Thecis" Leonard died in
Fairmount Cemetery, Red Level, Al. on 13 Jan 1913, he was 80.
Occupation: Doctor & farmer.

HAVE PICTURE;  Medical Dr. ; Millie was 2nd wife, 1st marriage to
Finetta Braxton (died young); "Finetta died during the civil war, when
Thomas came home on furlough (she had pnuemonia). His leave was up, but
Thomas stayed long enough to settle his daughters somewhere after
burying his wife. This was near the end of the war & a lot of
Confederate soldiers were deserting. If any "stray" Confederates were
caught he was lynched - no questions asked. Afraid to encounter his
rebel comrades, Thomas gave himself up to the Union Army. During a
skirmish while extracting a bullet from a "salvagable horse" (Thomas was
a medical Dr., whom the Yankees made into a Veterinarian),.. while
extracting this bullet, Confederate bullet hit him in the temple causing
him to lose his left eye. He wore a patch for the rest of his life. He
drew a pension from the Union Army of $30 per month, & his Confederate
pension was only $10. (the eye patch story does not cooroborate with
picture, both eyes are in tact). This story's source is Dorcas Finetta
Sellers Nixon (Dr. granddaughter). When she was a young girl , she
worked with him in his apothecary, mixing medicines & grinding powders.
In Dr.'s later years, he was unable to drive the buggy through the
country side. She was very knowledgable about his doctoring & knew what
he would do for certain medical needs. She lived with Dr. & Millie
during this time & took care of them in their old age. (this according
to Madge Nixon Lowe) The location of all this doctoring story is on the
west side of Andalusia, Al. Dorcas Finetta's parents ' home was on the
east side of Andalusia, it was a rough homestead style house. In order
for her to walk from her home to to the apothecary (when she was young)
she had to pass several saloons, where there were always drunks outside.
That experience began her life-long dis-like of whiskey.

On 19 Oct 1852 when Thomas "Thecis" Leonard was 19, he first married
Finetta Braxton, 134, F, daughter of Oliver Braxton Sr., 157, M & ?,
156, F. Born on 24 Aug 1834. Finetta died on 14 Mar 1864, she was 29.

They had the following children:
 3 i. Martha Ann Priscilla "Siller", 141, F (1856-1949)
 4 ii. Finetta Victoria "Victory" "Dora or Dory" Lynnie or Lydia, 142, F
(1858-1932)
 5 iii. Dorcas Adeline, 146, F (1860-?)
 6 iv. Mary Jane, 77, F (1862-1937)
  v. Darbie or Darkie, Half G Aunt, 147, F. Born  ? . Darbie or Darkie
died  ? .
I haven't confirmed if this is Mary Jane's sister; have picture states
"Cyrus' aunt, blind & lived in Flomaton" (Al.); Dewey Bardin (Cyrus
Bardin’s 5th son) thought name was Darkie
 

 app 1865 when Thomas "Thecis" Leonard was 32, he second married Millie
"Mittie" Ann Andrews, G Grandmother, 135, F, daughter of Benjamin
Andrews, 160, M & Millie Mathews, 159, F. Born  ? . Millie "Mittie" Ann
died  ? .

They had the following children:
 7 i. Emma Abigail, 136, F (1866-1937)
 8 ii. Simeon "Sim" Moses Lafayette George Washington Steven Daniel
William Edward, 137, M (1868-1940)
  iii. baby girl died @ birth, G Aunt, 138, F. Born  ? .

baby girl died @ birth married , 143, M.

ED, Thank You Very Much-  do Any of us know who these HEWETTS are?
Have you order the war files on Mathew or Simeon SELLERS listed on the
Henry Co, AL page?
Does anyone know Simeon SELLERS parents?
marie, iowa

ON that page it will show =
CREEK WAR = DATES=ca 1835?msh
MATHEW SELLERS
SIMEON SELLERS
both in LEWIS COMPANY, BLAIRS BATT, AL MIL
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There May be BARDINS listed in these WAR files - do a Search on CREEK WAR ?
OR someone else give better info - Thanks,
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NO ONE has sent any info from same AND sometimes THERE isn't much/any info in files/BUT, sometimes a birthplace and That is What we NEED to Prove Where we came from.
=====
Maybe check with PAT and see if she has additional Info?
Thanks, marie, iowa

Hi Ed --

     I don't have any proof to give you, but I will say that the names in
the
first two generations you give have BRUNSWICK CO., NC (in southeastern NC)
all over them. A large "colony" of Hewitts and Leonards lived very near the
Sellers in Brunswick Co. in the late 1700's to 1800's. All these families
are
known to have extensively married into each other.

     In addition, my ancestor Elisha Sellers (c. 1735-1801), who lived most
of his adult life in Brunswick Co., had a Leonard mother-in-law (who
herself
had a sister Lydia) and brothers named Benjamin (c.1735-1817), Matthew
(1743-1807), and Simon/Simeon (c.1748-1816). Because of a process of
elimination based on what I do know, Simon may actually be your Simeon's
father or grandfather.

     Check out there to see if anyone has information on the children and
grandchildren of my Elisha's brother Simon/Simeon (c.1748-1816) -- based on
his will in Brunswick Co. he had one son (named Simon! - maybe yours), but
this son may have been old enough to have fathered children of his own, so
it's definitely worth checking out.

     It could all be a coincidence, but in the absence of any more
information, I'd start there and maybe into surrounding counties in NC and
SC. Hope this helps.

-- Tom Buchanan
    www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/u/c/Joel-T-Buchanan
    www.my-ged.com/buchanan

Sybil,
I'm happy I was of some help. Would it be too much to ask you send me the
names from the Otis & Cora Lee branch? I don't have anyone from that line.
I
would need names, birth dates, marriage dates (even multiple marriages) ,
death dates & any stories you may can share. Pat Wiggins will be excited to
hear we've found another branch from th Dr.
I'm attaching the picture of Lawson & Emma Abagail (Sellers) Turner. Let me
know if for some reason you do not receive.
Thank you,
Edward

We could use a copy of SYBILS letter and connection - SO our SELLERS know Who we are-
AND others may connect to their line =
IT helps so much to keep ALL SELLERS connected
AND the GALS also - this has been our downfall? Weak Area And  Where we Need to Connect/Prove/WORK ON more - marie, iowa

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    CC:
        Penelope_Willstrop@compuserve.com, sightler@frontiernet.net,
        Carickmatt@aol.com, mari@netins.net, drpulpit@juno.com
 

Hi Sybil,
You are correct - Emma Abagail was 14 in 1880 & Mary Jane was 18; I have a
xerox copy of the 1870 census that shows Emma at 4 yrs & Mary Jane at 8
yrs.
I'm sending you a copy a my tree from the Dr.'s  father, Simeon  - down.
Much
of what I have came from years of research done by Patricia L. Curtis who
married Aubrey Herbert Wiggins who is the son of Annie Lou Turner who is
the
daughter of Emma Abagail.
Pat has a computer but unfortunately is not on the net. We pass info via
snail mail or occasionally by phone. Let me know if you'd like her phone
no.
- I'll have to get her permission to pass it along.
I have as Emma Abagail's children:
    Rose Marie, James Duvall, Mittie Ann, Annie Lou, Cora Lee Hastie,
Joseph
Milton, Ella C., Earnest Beauregarde, Flora Flossie Emma & Mary Azaleah. I
also have a picture of Emma with her husband Lawson Duvall Turner & can
e-mail if you like; I would like any info or pictures you may have to add
to
my tree. I have no other info on Emma's children's decendants except Annie
Lou.
Are you from one of these lines?
Edward
(I'm going to to start copying my corospondence concerning family tree
stuff
to others - it helps to keep everyone informed & I don't have to remember
who
I spoke to about what; If you do not wish to see this, let me know, Thanks)
 
 

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        Re: [BARDEN] Statistics
   Date:
        Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:22:53 EDT
   From:
        EdBardin@aol.com
     To:
        pdenby@dial.pipex.com, BARDEN-L@rootsweb.com
    CC:
        laydean@millertel.net, drpulpit@juno.com, sgboyett@alaweb.com,
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1830 MONROE CO, AL = Lots of Davis = Is their a History on Monroe Co?,
might be on a township history?

This people appear to have Land here. might check the land records? and
Read the ages of these kids on an actual census.
marie, iowa

Hi folks!
I searched the Monroe Co., Al. census for 1860, 70 & 80 and found my
g-g-grandfather Andrew Bardin (Henry Clay Bardin's dad)!
here is what I discovered:
        1860 Monroe Co. Al. Pg 891 Burnt Corn Post Office
NAME                AGE     SEX     OCCUPATION      BIRTH STATE     my
Personal comment
Edmond Davis        56          m           farmer              Ga.
Jeffersonia Davis   44          f
Edmond          21          m
Seabonou ?          18          m
    name illegible
James               17          m
Sinai?              13          f
    name illegible
Martha              8           f
Elen                6           f
Charles             3           m
George              1/12        m
    one month old
Andrew Barton       21          m
    my g-g-grandfather
Mary                15          f
    my g-g-grandmother

Andrew's last name was spelled Barton apparently living with bride Mary
Elizabeth Davis age 15, along with her parents & family. Edmond's wife
looks
like they spelled it with a "J" but I have thru family Bible info it was
Sophronie or Sophronia. They probably just spelled it wrong.
 

    1870 Monroe Co. Al. census pg 417, line/household 168
NAME                AGE     SEX     OCCUPATION      BIRTH STATE     my
Personal comment
Bardon, Andrew      31          m           farmer              Al.
    birth St. contradicts 1880 census
Mary E.         25          f           keeping house       Al
Henry C.            9           m                               Al
    my g-granfather
Martha E.           4           f                               Al
Christopher         2           m                               Al
Bardon, Joseph      13          m           Laborer             Al
    this must be a nephew?
Davis, James        27          m           Laborer             Al
has to bro-in-law (see above 1860)

Note this time they spelled last name Bardon!
I know from info passed down thru family Bibles, etc. that Andrew's wife's
name is Mary Elizabeth, Henry C. is Henry Clay, Martha E. is Martha Ellen,
Christopher is Christopher Columbus, Joseph is Joseph Marion but not sure
of
the relation (can't be son!). I doubt the birth state of Andrew- see 1880
below.
 

    1880 Monroe Co. Al. census pg 442
NAME            AGE SEX RELATION        OCCUPATION      BIRTH STATE     my
Personal comment
Bardin, Andrew  44      m                       farmer              **Ga.
or
Va.     can't tell if St.ibrev. is a V or G
Mary E.     35      f       wife                keeping house       Al.
Martha E.       12      f       daugh
        Martha Ellen
Christopher     10      m       son
        Christopher Columbus
*Linden         8       m       son

*Asenith E.     5       f       daugh
*George R.      4       m       son
*James A.       1       m       son

Note Henry Clay has moved out - he shows up in the household of his
in-laws,
the Sellers.
If Andrew's parents were born in Va. it's more believablel to me that he
was
born in Va. or Ga. (migrating to the south)

*I had a Lee Andrew in my info with the approx birth date of Linden so I
feel
confident it's him. Asenith E. is Asenith Eumer (again from info passed
down). George R. is George Rufus; and I had a Jasper or Jess Aldrens Bardin
with same birth year, so again, this has to be James A.
** The fancy writing made it difficult to tell whether it was a G for Ga.
or
V for Va. (it looked more like a G). Also,  a column I left out was the
birth
state of the parents of the household and for Andrew's father the state was
Va.! & for his mother it was also Va.!  This is significant in that it will
point me in the direction of where to search next for Andrew's parents-
only
problem is.... which county? Also my search will be complicated by the fact
I'll have to search all conceivable ways of spelling Bardin. I searched
further in Monroe Co. in 1860 & 1850 with no luck.
    Anyone has any suggestions where to go next?
Edward

Barb!!!
I think I just found our Emma Martin! I went to Ancestory.com & began
searching social security records for some of the girls names I have. One
of
Clarence's sister was Asenith Eumer. At least that's how it appears on one
of
the census' I sent (have you rec'd?). Anyway, I went back & found that my
grandmother spelled her 1st name Cenith & so I searched with this spelling
&
Martin as the last name & bingo!
Her birth date matches exactly as my grandmother wrote. It says her ss #
was
264-98-3106, she was born 8/16/1874 & died 10/15/70 (96!) & her last known
address was "Escambia County, Pensacola, Fl., zip 32505." I'm sending a
request for a copy of the ss-5 s.s. card which is supposed to provide much
more detail. Will keep you informed.
Ed
(for those I'm copying Cenith Martin is Henry Clay & Clarence Letcher
Bardin's sister; We knew she was in the Pensacola area from an obit. on
Clarence's death in 1942 provided by Barbara, Clarence's granddaughter;
this
provided additional proof that Barbara is in fact connected to our Andrew
Bardin line)

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        Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:51:06 EST
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Tammy,
Just got back from Flomaton & I found Mary E. Bardin's grave! She is
buried,
as I stated,  in the Flomaton Cemetery in what is called plot "A" (old
section ) near the front among a family of Dunns. One of the Dunns is
"Martha
E. Dunn" - this must be her daughter Martha Ellen Bardin Dunn - though the
birth date is off (head stone reads born 1865, I have 7/71866) I believe
it's
her & this may be the "Darkie" ("Cy's aunt, blind & lived in Flomaton") I'm
searching for. I have no info on this line , do you? Anyway, for the record
Mary E. Davis Bardin is buried near front- from the east entrance (there's
2
- north & east) off a smaller road (sorry, don't remember rd. name) you
turn
on the 1st road to right after entering cemetery. Proceed maybe 100 feet &
just before it curves left her plot is on the left.
Edward
Tammy I'm sending this 1st, then I'm going to send pic. of "Darkie"
(I'm copying others on this info)