BARBADOS made in
lays next to

ISLE OF WIGHT, VA?



http://24.42.45.104/tombstones/barbados/index.html


Barbados records, wills and administrations, 3 vols: 1639-1680, 1681-1700 and 1701-1725, compiled and edited by Joanne McRee Sanders. Published Houston, Texas: Sanders Historical Publications, c1979-[c1981]
Includes some mentioning relatives in Gloucestershire. Thanks to Leslie Mahler for this information.


The Culpepers came to Barbados from England sometime between 1640 and 1660. They grew in number and there appears to have been well over 100 living Culpepers in Barbados by the early 1800s. They nearly all descended from a single couple, the Rev. William Culpeper and Margaret Alleyne. Margaret and/or William may not have actually emigrated, but it is clear that at least three of their children did.



REDWOOD FAMILY =
BARBADOS WILLS AND ADMS, VOL 1, PAGE 297
JOHN REDWOOD, ST PHILIPS PARISH, JULY 20, 1660, RB6/10, P 100
MY NATURAL SON JOHN REDWOOD* AT 16, LAWFULLY BEGOTTEN O BODY OF WF ELIZABETH REDWOOD*; BRO THOMAS REDWOOD; KINDSMAN ASHEHURST - GDN AND ASSISTANT TO WF. SIGNED JOHANNIS (X) RED
WIT: RICHARD HOLDIPP MILNER, THOMAS ZEALE SCRVR:
PROVED JAN 7, 1668, JOHN SELLER AND ELIZABETH SELLER, FORMERLY WF OF JOHN REDWOOD, RELINQUISH RIGHTS TO SAIDJOHN ASHURT.

=

BARBADOS WILLS AND ADM VOL 1, PAGE 320

JOHN SELLER AND WIFE ELIZABETH



feb 18, 2003
from
Ray Revette [rrevette@digital.net]

This is new and interesting information regarding John SELLERS
(1600s) and his wife Elizabeth. Bob will subscribe to the list and
contribute I hope. Communicate to the list and he will get it too.
.....
Ray Revette
------- Forwarded message follows -------
Ray:

Thanks for the information.



from
BOB SELLERS
Cynaman7@aol.com

Yesterday, I visited the library in New Orleans and found a book on
wills from Barbados.  I have long wanted to look into Barbados
records as it was on the "track" followed by many of the ships going
to and from Virginia and England.

An individual by the name of JOHN REDWOOD died in 1660 in St.
Phillips Parish, Barbados.
Earlier, he was married to ELIZABETH LNU,
who later became the wife of JOHN SELLER,
the son of WILLIAM SELLER who appeared in legal documents of IoW CO.
VA in 1657.
 In 1668, JOHN and ELIZABETH SELLER signed
documents providing for the distribution of JOHN REDWOOD's
estate.

Nothing that I have read indicates that JOHN SELLER came into
the VA Colony from England.  Everything seems to indicate that he
was born in the  Colony.  If that is so, he must have been in his late
teens or early twenties in 1660...as his wife, ELIZABETH, must also
have been. If this is so, then WILLIAM SELLER must have entered
the Colony long before 1657...possibly before 1640.

Bob Sellers

------- End of forwarded message -------
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feb 18, 2003
RAY, thank you for sharing.

WE need documents on these SELLERS from other countries.

WE esp need the document relating to SELLERS in IW/IOW, VA.
don't see it in IOW, perhaps it was in a BARBADOS document referring to IOW,
VA? = just as good. thats how we find/prove SELLERS to where they went.

WE will make a page for BARBADOS, DOES anyone have info/history to share? =

Please, have BOB SELLERS send documents, We Need and appreciate sharing.
He should also send a small family chart of his to connect to our
states/counties.
marie, iowa



feb 19, 2003
Ed:

Thought I sent you a note yesterday...if I didn't, I'm sorry, for I meant to
do so.

On Monday of this week I had an opportunity to visit the New Orleans library.
 While there, I picked up a book on wills of Barbados.  In it was a will for
a JOHN REDWOOD of St. Phillips Parish, Barbados, who had passed in 1660.
Earlier, he had been married to ELIZABETH LNU...who, subsequently, married
JOHN SELLER.  JOHN SELLER and ELIZABETH SELLER, in 1668, signed documents
providing for the disposition of JOHN REDWOOD's estate.  I am assuming
(perhaps incorrectly) that JOHN and ELIZABETH SELLER were in Barbados to sign
the document.
In any event, if ELIZABETH was married to JOHN REDWOOD...who died in
1660...she would (probably) have been in her late teens or early twenties on
the marriage date (unknown).So, if ELIZABETH LNU married JOHN REDWOOD in
1660, the year of his death, we can say that she was approximately 20 years
old at the time.
Similarly, for JOHN SELLER to have married her (remember, the two of them
"appear" in Isle of Wight Co. VA in 1722 when they sell land previously owned
by WILLIAM SELLER), I am assuming, again, that they were of the same
approximate age.
If the above is correct...or nearly so...then JOHN SELLER, son of WILLIAM
SELLER, had to have been born around 1640

Let me know what you think.

Bob Sellers


MARCH 17, 2003
Cynaman7@aol.com

This addresses information that I have located in the books by Joanne McRee Sanders on records in Barbados (specifically, the book on "Baptisms" and the book on "Wills"...I do not yet have access to the book on "Marriages"):

WILLS

Page 320:

John & Elizabeth Seller, formerly the wife of John Redwood.
10 Sep 1668, RB6/10, p.106

We do hereby give unto friend John Ashurst full power & right to Adm the estate of John Redwood.  Signed John (x) Seller and Elizabeth (x) Seller

Page 297:

REDWOOD, John
St Philips Parish, 20 July 1660, RB6/10, p.100

My natural son John Redwood* at 16, lawfully begotten of the body of wf  Elizabeth Redwood*; bro Thomas Redwood; kinsm John Ashehurst - Gdn & assistant to wf.
Signed Johannis (x) Redwood

wit:  Richard Holdipp milner, Thomas Zeale scrvr:

Proved 7 Jan 1668, John Seller & ELizabeth Seller, formerly the wf of John Redwood, relinquish rights to said John Ashurst.

Additional research needs to be completed BEFORE we can assume that this JOHN SELLER is the son of WILLIAM SELLER (for whom CHRISTOPHER REYNOLDS, JR., obtained 50 acres of land as a "headright").  Should someone have immediate access to the book on "Marriages", it might be possible to determine ELIZABETH's maiden name.  BUT, if this JOHN SELLER is the son of WILLIAM, it makes both JOHN and WILLIAM older than has heretofore been assumed by researchers known to me.

I will keep you apprised of what I find (the books are published by Sanders Historical Publications of Houston).

Bob Sellers
cynaman7@aol.com

check surname LNU?

march 18, 2003
Ray Revette [rrevette@ij.net]

Another SELLERS appears in Barbados in 1679....
In the book Omitted Chapters from Hotten's - 1600 - 1700 edited by 
James C. Brandow
A census taken in Barbados 6 Jan 1679 of a Military unit of 
Souldies.
Rob Sellers

It was common for all boats/ships from England to America to sail 
south from England and then cross the Atlantic Ocean to the west  to
Barbados then sail northward to VA. Thats where the currents  and
winds are. Back to England was a different story and direction.
.......
Ray Revette

march 18, 2003
Ray Revette [rrevette@ij.net]

Today I researched on the same general topic and have this report to add:

>From the Marriages book on page 439:
John Soller & Elizabeth Redwood 19 Mar 1668 in St John Parrish


In the book: A Guide to Source Material for the Study of Barbados History, 1627-
1834 by Jerome S. Handler.
Sellers, John
Barbados Almanac for XXX years, showing the days of the month, the suns
place....also the movable Feast of that Famous Island. London [1684]     [BM]
Contains Standard Almanac information.

This item confuses things somewhat by the apparent fact that John Sellers could
not sign his name (used his mark) when signing over the estate of John Redwood to
John Ashurst. If he could not write his name how could he write an Almanac?

There are several additional items listed in the three books on Wills, Marriages, and
Baptisms that cover the several children of John Redwood not reported herein.
.....
Ray Revette

========
RAY, thank you.
Bob stated he had some documents, But Not Marriages, etc? and needed us to contribute.
DO you have the other info extracted, please send.

WE need all info to help make  a timeline with dates to continue where family went, etc.
marie, iowa

========
march 18, 2003
RAY, thanks. see them.
NOW,
where AND is There a connection to the statement BOB? made =
sending cc to him, and he maybe able to explain this to me also.
Seems no one else has had problems with it?
Sorry, have to See it.

====
Cynaman7@aol.com
So, if ELIZABETH LNU married JOHN REDWOOD in
1660, the year of his death, we can say that she was approximately 20 years
old at the time.
Similarly, for JOHN SELLER to have married her (remember, the two of them
"appear" in Isle of Wight Co. VA in 1722 when they sell land previously owned
by WILLIAM SELLER), I am assuming, again, that they were of the same
approximate age.
If the above is correct...or nearly so...then JOHN SELLER, son of WILLIAM
SELLER, had to have been born around 1640
===========

I NEVER could CONNECT the two to ISLE OF WIGHT , VA
and perhaps BOB was just sharing ideas, etc. OR I missed a letter/document , etc.
====
WE need an explantation added to this?
WE appreciate the Sharing, even if I /WE have questions.
marie, iowa

march 19, 2003
from marie
RAY, THANK you for outline chart - it helps all.

AND YES, this info is needed and appreciated, No matter Which SELLERS it
turns out to be.

I kinda think we/I need to see a continuation of DATES of SELLERS in
Barbados after 1668?

YES, we need to FILL in the gaps of VA also.

SAME/DIFF?  or we just DON'T have the files/documents in between on BOTH
AREAS?

PLEASE understand me and THANK YOU for much sharing.
Hope we ALL 'KEEP DIGGING' and sharing these documents and ideas.
marie, iowa



march 19, 2003
from
ehudsoniii@aol.com
Ok. Let's look at the pieces:

>From WILLS book on Page 320: (RB6/10, p.106 = source information)

John & Elizabeth Seller, formerly the wife of John Redwood.
10 Sep 1668, We do hereby give unto friend John Ashurst full power & right to Adm
the estate of John Redwood.  Signed John (x) Seller and Elizabeth (x) Seller

Elizabeth Seller (and her husband John) are voluntarily forfeiting the right  to administer the estate of Elizabeth's ex-husband, John Redwood, to Mr. John Ashurst. They sign by mark, indicating both are illiterate.

>From the WILLS book on  Page 297 (RB6/10, p.100 source information)

REDWOOD, John, St Philips Parish, 20 July 1660, My natural son John Redwood*
at 16, lawfully begotten of the body of wf (wife) Elizabeth Redwood*; bro (brother)
Thomas Redwood; kinsm (unknown) John Ashhurst - Gdn (guardian) &
assistant to wf (wife). Signed Johannis (x) Redwood

This portion of his will, written by (or for) Johannis Redwood purportedly in 1660, names as his heirs his son John, his (then) wife Elizabeth, and his brother Thomas. He also names John Ashurst as assistant to his wife and as guardian to his son John until he is age 16. This may be misdated, for the following record has son John born February 5, 1661.

FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 Caribbean Islands
Family Group Record
Search Results | Download

Husband
 JOHN REDWOOD Pedigree
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/family_group_record.asp?familyid=211421057&indi_id=500276216293&lds=1&region=3&frompage=99
 (msh)

  Birth:   
Christening:   
Marriage:   
Death:   
Burial:   


 


Wife
  

 
Children

1.   JOHN REDWOOD Pedigree
   Male  
   
  Birth:   
Christening:  05 FEB 1661  Saint Philip, Barbados, Caribbean
Death:   
Burial:

So, if the kid was born to Elizabeth in 1661, she could have been born as late as 1645. We know she was married to John Sellers in 1668.   Therefore, we can assume that John Sellers was born 1640-1645. Now, the $64 dollar question becomes; Does being born in the 1640's disqualify him as the son of William Seller? Also, why would William's son John have been in Barbados? It's possible, I suppose, that he went there to transport people of his own for profit under the VA headright/patent system. I suppose all this is theoretically possible assuming that there was some extraordinary reason why a headright for William Seller's transportation wasn't obtained until 1657 if his actual arrival in Virginia occurred in the early-to-mid 1630's as this theory demands. Do-able, but it's gonna take a lot of work or luck to reasonably establish it as fact.

-Ed Hudson
ehudsoniii@aol.com

MARCH 19, 2003
FROM RAY
Ray Revette [rrevette@ij.net]

Marie, --and others trying to follow this Barbados Island trail of
SELLERS research
Follow this item *()* by item and you will see that we now have
enough information to answer some questions with more clarity
======
> Cynaman7@aol.com
> So, if ELIZABETH LNU married JOHN REDWOOD in
> 1660,*(1)* the year of his death, we can say that she was approximately 20
> years old at the time. Similarly, for JOHN SELLER to have married *(2)* her
> (remember, the two of them "appear" in Isle of Wight Co. VA in 1722
> when they sell land previously owned by WILLIAM SELLER), I am
> assuming, again, that they were of the same approximate age. If the
> above is correct...or nearly so...then JOHN SELLER, son of WILLIAM
> SELLER, had to have been born around 1640 *(3)*
=====
*(1)*    We do not yet have a marriage date for John REDWOODS and
Elizabeth ____. We do have the following information regarding dates
for this John and the Elizabeth that later married John Se(o)llers.

REDWOOD, John, St Philips Parish, 20 July 1660, My natural son John
Redwood* at 16, lawfully begotten of the body of wf (wife) Elizabeth
Redwood*; bro (brother) Thomas Redwood; kinsm (unknown) John Ashhurst
Gdn (guardian) & assistant to wf (wife). Signed Johannis (x) Redwood
Wit:  Richard Holdipp milner, Thomas Zeale scrvr: Proved 7 Jan 1668,
John Seller & ELizabeth Seller, formerly the wf (wife) of John
Redwood, relinquish rights to said John Ashurst.

This would suggest to me that John REDWOOD and Elizabeth were married
at least 16+ years before 1660 when son John was born.

*(2)*    Regarding when John married Elizabeth consider this date:
From the Marriages book on page 439:
John Soller & Elizabeth Redwood 19 Mar 1668 in St John Parrish.

*(3)*    This date needs to be re-thought with this clear information we
have.

***** It is not yet proved that this is the John, son of our early
IoW William SELLERS but it sure could be. The Island of Barbados was
the first stop after the long westward trip crossing the Atlantic
Ocean for many sailing ships.
It is not clear how/why John Sellers went from VA to Barbados and
stayed there several years. It would be easier for me to see John
Sellers come from England to Barbados and lingered. This is what we
are trying to determine Marie and others.
......
Ray

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MARCH 19, 2003
FROM RAY
Ray Revette [rrevette@ij.net]


> John & Elizabeth Seller, formerly the wife of John Redwood.
> 10 Sep 1668, We do hereby give unto friend John Ashurst full power &
> right to Adm the estate of John Redwood.  Signed John (x) Seller and
> Elizabeth (x) Seller

The date of this signing in 1668 tells me that John Jr. was not YET
16 years old. John Jr. could have been born as early as 1653

> Elizabeth Seller (and her husband John) are voluntarily forfeiting the
> right  to administer the estate of Elizabeth's ex-husband, John
> Redwood, to Mr. John Ashurst. They sign by mark, indicating both are
> illiterate.

This is true regarding the marks for signing however John SELLERS in
Barbados in 1684 published an Almanac printed in London. THIS puzzles
me.

> >From the WILLS book on  Page 297 (RB6/10, p.100 source information)
>
> REDWOOD, John, St Philips Parish, 20 July 1660, My natural son John
> Redwood* at 16, lawfully begotten of the body of wf (wife) Elizabeth
> Redwood*; bro (brother) Thomas Redwood; kinsm (unknown) John Ashhurst
> - Gdn (guardian) & assistant to wf (wife). Signed Johannis (x) Redwood

This means to me that John Jr was not YET 16 years old and that John
Sr. was still alive. The Johannis sig. is most likely John. There was
not a Johannis in Barbados records at this time. John still had
another dau to be born in 1666.

Mary dau of John Redwood was baptized 10 Oct 1666 St Philip Par.

> This portion of his will, written by (or for) Johannis Redwood
> purportedly in 1660, names as his heirs his son John, his (then) wife
> Elizabeth, and his brother Thomas. He also names John Ashurst as
> assistant to his wife and as guardian to his son John until he is age
> 16. This may be misdated, for the following record has son John born
> February 5, 1661.

John Jr. was Christened 5 Feb 1661 ---not born.

      
> Christening:    05 FEB 1661     Saint Philip, Barbados, Caribbean 
> Death:          Burial:
>
> So, if the kid was born to Elizabeth in 1661, she could have been born

This is not likely the way it was. This all needs to be re-thought
Ed. John Jr could have been born as early as 1653.  This date, if
used, as you project backward will bring out completely different
results.

We all need to get on the same general 'page' with dates and names
and such so we can advance research on this saga.

> as late as 1645. We know she was married to John Sellers in 1668.Â
>  Therefore, we can assume that John Sellers was born 1640-1645. Now,
> the $64 dollar question becomes; Does being born in the 1640's
> disqualify him as the son of William Seller? Also, why would William's
> son John have been in Barbados? It's possible, I suppose, that he went
.....
Ray

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
RAY, thanks.

So  we have a JOHN SELLERS from BARBADOS that published an ALMANAC and it was PRINTED by someone in LONDON in 1684?

This probably Proves he Lived in Barbados in 1684
and does Not Prove His  connection to London.

WITH More records, we may find him here later or not?
THANKS for sharing.
THESE records, working either way, HELP us sort out our SELLERS.

DID you send us a copy of this document, etc?
PLEASE understand.

marie, iowa
=============
march 20, 2003
from RAY
Now that we search for more information on our early William SELLERS
and his son John in Barbados I have these observation/question.
Someone may have this information that I missed along the way.

1)  It appears there is a Barbados record that the ship transporting
    the indentured servants with/for Chris. Reynolds appeared in 1653/54.
    One listed person, Margaret Langridge, was one of the seven persons
    in this transportation, Ed reports. Other names listed with the seven
    should also appear in this record. One of the seven was William
    Sellers.

2)  Is there proof that John SELLERS son of William SELLERS was born
    in Isle of Wight? Could he have arrived in Barbados with his father
    in 1653/54?
.......
Ray

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
march 20, 2003
RAY and ALL -
This is a Very Good point. I have seen Parents and Kids christened/ same day.
marie, iowa  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Revette [mailto:rrevette@ij.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:15 PM
> To: EHUDSONIII@aol.com; Mari@netins.net; Cynaman7@aol.com
> Subject: Re: The Barbados Connection
>
>
> > February 5, 1661.
>
> John Jr. was Christened 5 Feb 1661 ---not born.
>
>       
> > Christening:    05 FEB 1661     Saint Philip, Barbados, Caribbean 
> > Death:          Burial:

MARCH 20, 2003

RAY, please understand my questions.
and WANT Others to reply also.

WHERE is  BARBADOS record on ship 1653/4 re: REYNOLDS/SELLERS.?
Please send.

WE do have records /documents/corrections etc on Reynolds/SELLERS and others relating to IOW, VA
 Believe they are linked to our IOW page.

THANKS for sharing all info.
GOOD NITE and BEST WISHES.
marie, iowa

FROM ED
 the entry is from Barbados Wills And Administrations, Volume 1,
Wills And Administrations, Page 215, and reads as follows:

LANGRIDGE, Thomas, joiner
1 June 1653, RB6/11, p. 568
Friend Robert Clark - Xtr; John Clark, son of Robert Clark; my
dau's son John Edwards; wf Margaret Langridge* . signed Thomas
(x) Langridge
Wit: Thomas (x) Maynes, Edward Forman
Proved 16 Jun
English Settlers in Barbados, 1637-1800 International
Records Barbados Wills and Administrations, Vol. I, Wills and
Administrations, Page 215 © Genealogy.com
=====
FROM RAY
Ed,
This is very interesting but does not even suggest a tie-in to the
'list of seven' more than a name. I assume you looked for other
members of the 'list of seven' in this book. (This is the same book I
was reading Tuesday in Tampa, FL). The fact that Margaret Langridge
is listed in Barbados in this family 'will situation' makes more
questions than it answers. There is more to this saga than we yet
see.

It would make good sense to find that son John traveled with his 
father William Sellers and stayed a while in Barbados before going to
IoW, VA.
.......
Ray




march 21, 2003
from RAY
Ray Revette [rrevette@ij.net]


This Margaret Langridge is reported in a family scene in Barbados and
then a little later shows up in IoW on a list of indentured servants.

There is little that can yet be extracted from this increasingly
complex saga. With each 'find' another question pops up.

> You're right. There is no "proof" of anything here. However, the fact
> is that the name, along with that of William Seller, appears on
> Christopher Reynolds' list; the 1653 date of her widowhood fits
> perfectly with someone transported to VA in 1653/54

Nothing yet fits perfectly with this story Ed. It seems only that at
this moment we are learning that this Barbados doorway is more
important than earlier thought and that there are records in Barbados
tying in with the list of characters from the IoW folk we are
researching.

An item we can/should have that will help us a great deal is a
timeline report of the facts we have discovered. I'm making such a
document and want to offer copies to all those researching this item.
Then each researcher can add/question items so as to move us toward a
consensus.

You can help me do this by sending a list of dates with a few-word
description of an event. Start with the very earliest record we have
of William Sellers. An attachment page can go with the time line
report with the more complete descriptions of the notes on the time
line. For the timeline report we need just the facts.
.......
Ray Revette
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march 21, 2003
from ED HUDSON
EHUDSONIII@aol.com


William Seller Timeline


1642
England. A William Seller appears as an heir in the will of John Kirbye of Charlton, England.

1650's
England. Turmoil caused by religious dissent. Oliver Cromwell Rebellion. Beheading of Charles I. People persecuted, branded, imprisoned, and hung for minor religious dissent. Many given "option" of being transported to Islands or Colonies as servants/slaves rather than being hung. Right in the middle of all this, from the 1630's to the 1670's was a Reverand William Seller. No known connection other than name.

1657 (November)
Isle of Wight, VA. Christopher Reynolds, Jr. obtains a land grant/patent for the "transportation" of seven persons to VA, namely Jno Becham, Joseph Kerby, Jno Moode, William Seller, Howsden, Margaret Langridge, and Susan Stubbers. By law, this meant that the actual "transportation" could have occurred no later than November, 1654. It could have occurred anytime before that, however.

1653
Barbados. Will records show that one Thomas Langridge died, leaving a widow named Margaret Langridge. Will proved June 16, 1653.

1660
Barbados. A will of John Redwood states that he and his wife Elizabeth have a son, John Redwood, who is less than 16 years old at that time.

1661
Barbados. A John Redwood, son of John Redwood, is Christened in St. Phillip Parish on February 5th.

1667
Isle of Wight County, Virginia. William Seller buys Blacksmith tools from the estate of a Captain Fulgham. This indicates that William was not an indentured servant at that time.

1668
Barbados? Virginia? A John Seller and his wife Elizabeth (the former Mrs. John Redwood) sign papers (by mark) relinquishing all rights to administer the will of John Redwood to a John Ashurst on September 10th. (Papers recorded in Barbados. Uncertain where they were signed.)

1677
Isle of Wight County, Virginia. William Seller signs a petition in October to spare the life of William West, who was arrested for participation in "Bacon's Rebellion".

1684
Isle of Wight County, Virginia. One Josiah Harrison transfers land to William Seller by deed of gift. This indicates William was not an Indentured Servant at that time.

1686
Isle of Wight County, Virginia. A John Sellers is a witness to the will of  John Moore.
He also witnessed a land sale in 1689, and was summoned to court in 1693.

1714
Isle of Wight County, Virginia. John Sellers and his wife Elizabeth sell land "which said (Johnah) Harrison gave to my father William in December, 1684."

More later if you wish.

-Ed


march 21, 2003
from ray


William SELLERS & Son John
Isle of Wight Co., VA and Barbados
22 Mar 2003


1622    Chris Reynolds came to VA – IoW Co., VA
1623    Christopher Reynolds living in VA – IoW Co., VA
1635    Christopher Reynolds came to VA - London
1642    William Sellers appears as heir in will of John Kirby – England.
1650    A Reverend William Seller appears in Oxford England - England
1653    Will of Thomas Langridge - widows Margaret Langridge - Barbados
1657    Chris. Reynolds, Jr. obtains land for seven indentured servants – IoW Co., VA
1660    Will of John Redwood – wife Elizabeth and son John – Barbados.
1661    John Redwood Jr. Christened - Barbados
1667    William Sellers buys blacksmith tools – IoW Co., VA
1668    John Sollers marries Elizabeth Redwood - Barbados
1668      John Sellers and wife Elizabeth sign release to John Redwood’s estate - Barbados
1677    William Sellers signs petition – IoW Co., VA
1684    William Sellers receives gift of land – IoW Co., VA
1684    John Sellers publishes Almanac - Barbados
1686    John Sellers witnesses a will - IoW Co., VA.
1693    John Sellers summoned to court – IoW Co., VA
1714    John sold father’s gift land from 1684 – IoW Co., VA
==============
march 21, 2003
from ed and ray = must have missed a message here? msh

> Ray,
> Looks good so far. Anyone with a word processing program should be
> able to download, open, and use/print it with no trouble. A couple of
> points... Christopher Reynolds did not actually obtain land in 1657.
> He applied for, and was granted, a certificate which could be redeemed

How can this event be usefully recorded here in a few words?

> for a specified parcel of land in the future. As a matter of fact, he
> never "cashed" the thing, and either sold or traded it to someone else
> in the early 1680's. Also, I'm a bit confused on the marriage of John

Nothing confusing about it Ed. They married in Barbados. You have had
this information at least two times. I offered this to the list last
Tuesday after Bob said he could not get to the Marriage book.

Barbados - John Soller married Elizabeth Redwood 19 Mar 1668 at St
John Parish (page 439 Marriages book)
Six months later on 10 Sep 1668 they signed the papers in Barbados
also. (page 297 Wills book)

I understand these Barbados records can be ordered from Barbados
using the source information indicated from this book. I didn't copy
that page of instructions but it is in the book.

> Seller and Elizabeth Redwood. Is there a record that they were
> actually married in Barbados? If not, it seems equally likely that
> Elizabeth went to Virginia after her divorce and married John there.
> The paper relinquishing the right to administer John Redwood's estate
> could have been handled by mail. I'm not suggesting this is true, but
> merely that it's a possibility unless we know where they married. As
> another thought, do we have anything other than the relinquishment
> paper that tells us for sure that John Seller was ever in Barbados at
> all? -Ed
Yes Ed, John Sellers was in Barbados for some time.

Attached is the draft copy of the detail page for backing up the
timeline page which is again included somewhat updated. I think that
the source for each item must be included and this is not now
included. Let me hear again what you think about the items sent.
Thanks.
......
Ray


march, 2002
from ray
to Ed, marie, bob


> Ray,
> Looks good so far. Anyone with a word processing program should be
> able to download, open, and use/print it with no trouble. A couple of
> points... Christopher Reynolds did not actually obtain land in 1657.
> He applied for, and was granted, a certificate which could be redeemed

How can this event be usefully recorded here in a few words?

> for a specified parcel of land in the future. As a matter of fact, he
> never "cashed" the thing, and either sold or traded it to someone else
> in the early 1680's. Also, I'm a bit confused on the marriage of John

Nothing confusing about it Ed. They married in Barbados. You have had
this information at least two times. I offered this to the list last
Tuesday after Bob said he could not get to the Marriage book.

Barbados - John Soller married Elizabeth Redwood 19 Mar 1668 at St
John Parish (page 439 Marriages book)
Six months later on 10 Sep 1668 they signed the papers in Barbados
also. (page 297 Wills book)

I understand these Barbados records can be ordered from Barbados
using the source information indicated from this book. I didn't copy
that page of instructions but it is in the book.

> Seller and Elizabeth Redwood. Is there a record that they were
> actually married in Barbados? If not, it seems equally likely that
> Elizabeth went to Virginia after her divorce and married John there.
> The paper relinquishing the right to administer John Redwood's estate
> could have been handled by mail. I'm not suggesting this is true, but
> merely that it's a possibility unless we know where they married. As
> another thought, do we have anything other than the relinquishment
> paper that tells us for sure that John Seller was ever in Barbados at
> all? -Ed
Yes Ed, John Sellers was in Barbados for some time.

Attached is the draft copy of the detail page for backing up the
timeline page which is again included somewhat updated. I think that
the source for each item must be included and this is not now
included. Let me hear again what you think about the items sent.
Thanks.
......
Ray




march 22, 2003
RAY,

rrevette@digital.net
IS Same as
rrevette@ij.net
that is who the BARBADOS messages have been coming from.
altho, when I hit reply to, I think? it goes to Ray@revette.net
which is same, I believe?
Probably okay, just had to check and ask!


BUT, if JOHN SELLERS of Barbados was DIVORCED?
WHERE is this message, document??
its possible I deleted, but, need.

THE time line of WM SELLERS of Isle of Wight, VA has been on that page for a
few months, this yr.
WHEN we were SORTING out WHICH of the CHRIS REYNOLDS this was and his age,
etc.(There were several Chris Reynolds')
KINDA like ED has sent to you on the TimeLine.
http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellers2/wmsellers1630.htm
will add a link to BARBADOS info you have sent. Sometimes, its not as
organized as should be , but it is mostly documents = what we need.

WE need/needed the Timeline of
JOHN SELLERS of Barbados to compare with Timeline of
John SELLERS , son of WM SELLERS of Isle of Wight, VA
AND this helps, altho, I can't see the two as same, yet.
IT still needs/needed checked out, just like you did.

altho, I can see where AGES with the names we are discussing would help.
SOME, we may not know, BUT, some we are kinda following/thinking same and
could use ages with.

ANOTHER letter pertaining to this same subject = perhaps I will catch up and
answer =
states we don't need to follow/continue up on JOHN SELLERS of BARBADOS?
YES, we Do need to continue info on SELLERS of BARBADOS  family also.
IT will help prove he stayed there or came to US, etc.

PLEASE understand me and thanks for sharing/helping.
WE appreciate.
marie, iowa

march 23, 2003
There are no ages, no divorces, no more data from Barbados than
posted now,

> RAY,